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On a scale of 1-10, how dumb was I in not making this trade at the gunshow today?

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Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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So I bought an IMI Timberwolf .357 mag carbine today off an ol boy, private collection, beautiful condition (90% plus), for $400, and I was (and remain) very happy with this purchase, as I have been wanting one (or similar) for quite awhile. But on the way out, another ol boy walking around had a U.S. 1917 in probably 80-85% condition, asking $600. Then he takes an interest in the IMI Timberwolf and offers a *straight trade*!! :eek: But I turned him down, since I have a pristine 1917, but no timberwolf. They don't make either one of them anymore, although the word on the street is that Braztech bought the tooling from IMI and is already, or is going to be, making these Timberwolves again. So pretty stupid not to trade?
 
I would say 3. You had just purchased a new firearm, the type of which you had none before, and decided not to trade it for another firearm which may potentially be worth as much or more, but of which you already have the same type. Your decision may have been hasty, but it was not irrational.
 
i'll be honest, i don't know much about either rifle. a quick search shows the IMI can go for 600+. if they are made again, will they be made for less than the $400 you paid (i doubt it), and will the original IMI be worth more than a new production? also would you rather have one of each or two 1917s?

i'd say a #1.
 
Thanks guys; that was my thinking... I too think this Timberwolf will be a great all-purpose gun. It could serve as truck gun, home defense, walking around gun (beavers, miscellaneous), and even with some hot heavy loads work for deer & hogs.

By the way, on the Timberwolf, it's pretty well built it appears, but gawd-awfully ugly. Looks to be pretty handy/fast in any event; front sight has some sort of white on it - either paint or a plastic insert; I think paint.
 
1. You probably went to the gun show looking for a gun you didn't already have, probably to shoot and that's what you got. Have fun with it.
 
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if you already have a pristine m1917, no reason to get another one if you really wanted the timberwolf
 
Depends on if the 1917 was an Eddystone or not, and if it had the ears intact.

Intact ears and not an Eddystone - I woulda done the trade.
 
I'd have to say 10, but I love my Mil-Surps, and would love to have a 80-85% M1917 (Winchester). As my Winchester M1917 is only about 60-65%.

But if you're happy at the end of the day, it's a 1 for you.

Wyman
 
It was in fact an Eddystone, and had the ears and all parts intact. The Winchesters fetch approx. an additional 10%, whereas the Remingtons and Remington-Eddystone's do not, however (typically).
 
I think that you would have silly to trade. Of course, the Timberwolf is one of my favorite boonie guns.
 
I would have kept IMI Timberwolf .357 mag myself. Much better plinker, hander, and you will use it more often.
 
people put a price tag on something but a question i ask myself is--what is it worth to me? along with you cant make 100% 100% of the time.
thus, something you do not need--even at a real good price; for me is $ i can be using towards a purchase that im awanting....you did good.
 
Anytime I can trade a $400 gun even for a gun I can sell for $600 and then turn around and buy another of the $400 gun and $200 in ammo and don't do it, I blundered.

The question is whether or not that is indeed the case here. Maybe there was a problem with the Enfield that wasn't being disclosed. You'll never know.
 
You can't just turn around and buy another timberwolf though. Not like they're all over the place. I don't think I've EVER seen one.
 
Did you buy it to shoot or to resell? I think that if you're a reseller, then you have no business doing anything other than looking at the straight up value as an investment, so a 10. If you bought it to shoot, then who cares what it will be worth today, tomorrow or 100 years from now. If that's the case then a 1.
 
To the OP, please let us know what you think of it after you shoot it. To any Timber Wolf owners, do you like your guns? I've been thinking about getting one for quite some time, I just don't know if it's going to be worth it. I've always liked the idea of teh .44 Timber Wolf, but since I just picked up a Puma 92 in 454 my need for a big bore is covered. Maybe I'll start looking for a .357 gun.
 
IMI Timberwolf

Absolutely I bought it to shoot it, not an investment.

ANS, I will report back after shot, but initial impressions are positive. It takes down as you probably know, into two pieces, buttstock and the rest, although the two parts are not equal in length, and the receiver/bbl part is still quite long; too long to fit into a small daypack, for example, without sticking out.

I'm trying to decide whether to:
1. Scope it (something like a Leupold VX1, 1-4x20mm), or
2. ESD / reflex sight
3. Iron sights / leave it alone

I'm leaning toward 1, due to my poor eyesight, but OTOH, this is a rifle that just screams irons or reflex, due to its nature as a quick follow-up shot hunter. The problem with a reflex/ESD is that they tend to sit up too HIGH for what makes sense for this rifle.... I'm going to hand cycle some .38 specials today to see if it will feed them; I'll let you know. :)

ANS, I have two Puma 92s: a 20" .454 casull, and a 16" in .45 colt. I like the pump idea better in the lighter .357, due to the idea that the recoil being less, you can get back on target as equally quickly as you can cycle the pump, whereas with a levergun, which takes a scrunthair longer to cycle, combined with the necessity of removing your head from the line of sight with a lever, the heavier recoiling big bores made more sense as a match for a lever, to me. Of course, a pump could not contain the pressures of .454 casull, but it could the .45 colt in standard loadings quite easily; my understanding is that hot .357 loads like Buffalo Bore are not a great idea in any large quantity in the Timberwolf.
 
Update on Timberwolf

Cycled some .38 specials:

1. Good news: Feeds them absolutely flawlessly; thumbs up.

2. Bad news: Something is wrong with the extractor; specifically, there is too large of a gap between the extractor's tooth and the cartridge rim (it is not held "tightly" against the breech face); this allows the nose of the round or case to simply fall downwardly once the nose of the round (or case) is pulled completely from the chamber, which as it turns our, is just *before* it hits the ejector and ejects. So the round falls down in on top of the new round being pulled from the mag and held in the riser, causing a jam. That's if you cycle it slowly. If you cycle it very quickly, it ejects and functions fine, as the extractor just keeps pulling back on the rim and allows it to hit the ejector before gravity has a chance to pull it down. Anyone know of a fix? Thanks.
 
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