One hand chambering...

[Edward429451]

I've heard some people say "I dont like full length guide rods b/c they interfere with one hand chambering of an auto (1911) against your leg or a tabletop..." scenario being one hand hurt in a gun battle, or grappling with a BG on the ground or whatever...

Bullpucky! I see what you guys are trying to say and it looks good on paper but I tried it last night and it just dont work, the barrel gets in the way, and the frame stops it from cycling back far enough to allow a round to pop up from the mag, if done on a tabletop below the barrel.

Am I missing something or are you guys just full of bullpucky, or what?

 

[stevelyn]

I'm not sure if I understand what you are trying to describe. All the one hand chambering drills I've ever done have been by hooking the rear sight on the heel of a shoe, edge of a belt, down the outseam of pant legs, or edge of a holster. I've never had a problem chambering a round. Full length guide rods are irrelevant because they don't come in contact with anything to prohibit cycling the slide.

 

[buzz_knox]

I've seen the chamber method demonstrated, but only in photos. It requires fairly precise angling of the weapon to work, as well as a convenient structure. If you have a belt, hook your sights on that. If you don't, get the sights on your holster. If you've got nothing else, use your teeth (actually, don't try this. I chipped a tooth once trying to do this stunt.).

 

[MonkeyMan]

For my money full length guide rods don't make a bit of difference when it comes to chambering a round one-handed. They do, however, make it a bit more difficult to do a press check.

 

[tiberius]

W/O a FLGR, you can chamber a round in a standard 5" 1911 by pressing the lower part of the muzzle (at the plug, below the barrel) against a table, or other hard corner. You will chamber a .45 ACP round before you hit the dust cover.

Like Monkeyman said the press check is probably more important than this particular method of one handed chambering.

 

[Black_Talon]

All the one hand chambering drills I've ever done have been by hooking the rear sight on the heel of a shoe, edge of a belt, down the outseam of pant legs, or edge of a holster. I've never had a problem chambering a round.

Ever tried to do that with Novak Low Mount Sights (the ones that are kind of ubiquitous nowadays)? You can't (at least I can't), because there's no sharp edges on the sights to catch anything on. That's one of the main reasons I like FLGR-less 1911's again.

 

[Edward429451]

Ah ok, so you can do it against a table. Guess I wasn't doin it right last night.

Having no forward serrations on my pistol, I've always press checked uh, slingshot style I guess you could call it, from the rear. Seems to work ok.

I cant hardly imagine having to chamber one handed anyway b/c I'm cocked & locked anyway and if I ran dry and switched mags I use the slide release one handed.

 

[E357]

Boy, this is my second post on this topic in about ten minutes and none in the prior 35 years. If you are ever shot and have to reload your pistol - Do not pay any attention to any two handed instructor! Who never had to face real extended combat. It is very simple. Grab the SLIDE not the FRAME then push the rear of the grip frame against anything solid - rock, bone, elbow, knee, or your head/helmet and let the weapon return quickly to battery. - Works every time with any open slide pistol - from 1911 to Kel-Tec p-32.

Elliot

 

[Edward429451]

That makes sense. It makes so much sense I wonder why I never thought of or heard it before. Rule 3 still applies hopefully.

 

[E357]

Edward, It does take a strong grip and like I said 99% of todays instructors have little in the way of actual battle experience. But they are great shooting at steel plates. Which is fine by me. I don't want to go back to the "good old days". I do love the old gun writers though.

I used to show it as a trick to guys in the VA hospital in NY, to show them they still could do plenty with what they had left.

Elliot

 

[New_comer]

Great tip!


Thanks!