Only one caliber

[LoonWulf]

Ok I gotta know - how could you tell that it was a Fajin stock? I’m more than a little impressed by that.

The shape and features, I've had 3 or 4 variants of that stock. My 03 sporter wore a Bishop, which is the other common option.

 

[LoonWulf]

Wow thanks! I’ve got one that I found on eBay. She’s at my local gunsmith shop as we speak getting the upgrade. Then I can really do an apples to apples comparison between the two rifles.

Right on, that should be a nice rig!

 

[john dunn]

So what caliber do you have?

30-06

 

[Picher]

I've shot deer with lots of cartridges in various "weapons", including .22-250, .243, .270 Win, .30-06, .44 Mag handgun, and .20 gauge slug and missed a few with about the same cartridges. I swear that trees moved to get in the way sometimes. The least effective round in these Maine woods, at least to me was a .44 mag handgun with iron sights. I hit a deer with my Ruger Super Blackhawk, but had to finish it off with a rifle.

The most surprising cartridge was the .22-250, which, when hitting the hear/lung area, was impressive. The first time, was when a medium-sized doe was loping along behind a screen of light alders, 100 yards out. It came to a field road in the clear, and I was standing, unsupported when I fired. Before I could recover from the slight recoil, the deer disappeared and I could see neither hide nor hair for several seconds, then the tail twitched once, and it was deceased.

Hunting in lots of wooded areas, or along woods roads where we could see crossing deer out to 500 yards, the .22-250 was out of it's comfort zone, and mine. Later, the .270 Win took many deer for me, but one smallish 4" diameter hardwood sticking out of a woods line deflected a shot on a nice buck. I couldn't believe that a shot missed the deer I shot at until I saw the splintered, back-side of the snowmobile-sign bearing tree. I doubt that even the '06 would have been successful in that situation...we'll never know.

 

[GooseGestapo]

I have proved to myself that the .30/06 is as, or more accurate than the .308.
I have a Remington M700 tactical w/20” bull barrel that is the most accurate.308 I’ve ever owned. Last week, it had its best day at the range. I got one 5-shot group that went near 1/2” followed by a .7” group. It has to have a good day to match two of my ‘06’s. (Garands not included).

My Colt light rifle with its whispy 24”bbl will on average out shoot the stubby bull barreled Remington! My 1943 Remington 03A3 2-groove settles the argument.

Why are three matches that only allow use of the .308? Hmmmm
Same reason Glock matches only allow glock.
Group was shot by the 03A3 with issue sights. Left flyer was first shot before 2-clicks right adjustment at 100yds from bench, with witnesses!

added: But I’m also right fond of my two .270’s!

 

[GooseGestapo]

Loon Wolf;
If clips and magazines are the same, why are clips used to load magazines, and some magazines require a clip to function. (ie M1 Garand). Hmmmm?

I proved this to a friend who was shooting an AR 15 with me one day. He asked for another “clip”, I handed him a stripper clip! He smiled and said “touché”!

 

[LoonWulf]

Loon Wolf;
If clips and magazines are the same, why are clips used to load magazines, and some magazines require a clip to function. (ie M1 Garand). Hmmmm?

I proved this to a friend who was shooting an AR 15 with me one day. He asked for another “clip”, I handed him a stripper clip! He smiled and said “touché”!

If youd handed me loaded stripper clip I'd have been just as happy lol

Admittedly I was trolling.

Truth tho, I don't care what people call stuff...... as long as I can figure out what a person means with the rest of the sentence.

 

[Charlie98]

Probably depends on what you are shooting it in, too. Find a rifle that fits your needs, and works with your personal geometry, etc... and then see what chambering it comes in. Very often that will dictate what cartridge you wind up with... and the long action vs short action aspect as well.

I love the .30-06, but I acknowledge it is probably too big for maybe 75% of the hunting chores in North America, with the caveat that a handloader can tailor the load. Further, I would not want an afternoon of 'target' shooting with full-house .30-06, and, probably, .270; the exception to that is the M1 Garand, of course.

.308 it is.

 

[Bill M.]

When I was young and poor and actually had time and a place to hunt all I had was a 30-06. I guess it was 35 years before I bought additional rifles. You can certainly get by on one caliber. Maybe unless brown bear or a trip to Africa or a sheep hunt are on the dance card. They were not for me.

 

[Hummer70]

I am getting older and moving some guns out of vault and I can say if I get down to one rifle left it will be 30.06 caliber. Why, I can load 110 gr. to 220 grain bullets in 30.06. The long neck makes it ideal for 30 cal cast bullets as well.

I remember engineers from Federal told me that the bullet they load the most of is 22 LR, followed by 30.06. 30.06 is easier to find than most any other caliber and no matter where you are in the country you can find it. Just this morning on ARMSLIST there was a guy selling 6 GI Ham CAns of 30.06 M2 ball in 8 rd clips.

 

[Picher]

Hunting in many Maine forests, you may decide to use a .30-06, the cartridge that will go through a 6-inch diameter tree and kill the deer standing behind it. I hunted with one for many years, until I had the opportunity to shoot deer on a discontinued dead-straight county road that allowed me to shoot deer crossing it out to 500 yards! (That's like a thousand yards to a Mainer.)

I decided that four hundred yards is as far as I want to shoot at a deer and that the .270 Win had a better trajectory to handle the task. So, after getting one and shooting it out to about 450 yards, gave my great .30-06 to my eldest son. I still think I made the right decision.

 

[entropy]

I am getting older and moving some guns out of vault and I can say if I get down to one rifle left it will be 30.06 caliber. Why, I can load 110 gr. to 220 grain bullets in 30.06. The long neck makes it ideal for 30 cal cast bullets as well.

I remember engineers from Federal told me that the bullet they load the most of is 22 LR, followed by 30.06. 30.06 is easier to find than most any other caliber and no matter where you are in the country you can find it. Just this morning on ARMSLIST there was a guy selling 6 GI Ham CAns of 30.06 M2 ball in 8 rd clips.

Good to see you posting!

 

[Picher]

Pringles Sour Cream & Onion.

With the essence of Hoppies #9 on your fingers.

 

[WisBorn]

With the essence of Hoppies #9 on your fingers.

JP, I think you can market that as its own flavor of chips

 

[js8588]

With the essence of Hoppies #9 on your fingers.

I'm more of a G96 man, myself.

 

[LoonWulf]

just dont Pringles from an open bag that was stored in the same cooler as the spare gas can...I PROMISE youll be sick for a while.....

 

[cdb1]

For myself it would be a Weatherby Vanguard S2 .270.

 

[Picher]

My go-to here when hunting in northern Michigan is 6.5x55. But I would choose 30-06. I like the option of a heavy 220gr. Factory load for something like bear. With that posdible exception, I would be comfortable with any you have listed, and I have rifles in each of those 3 as well.

In all the years I owned .30-06 rifles, I never fired a 220 grain factory round. That was probably because I never hunted bear or moose when I owned a rifle in that chambering. For even the largest Maine deer I've shot (nearly 200 lbs), the 150-180 grain bullets have done the job quite well.

 

[Picher]

The other round that I didn't notice being mentioned is the .280 Rem (7mm). I've seen deer shot with that cartridge and was impressed with the quick-killing ability. The .270 at about equals it and shoots a bit flatter, but a buddy swears by it and I've seen him shoot running deer at 200 yards and am really impressed by the effectiveness.

I've also seen deer shot by 7mm Magnums, both in the field and at the butcher's and think it's overkill...ruining lots of meat sometimes.

 

[Charlie Martinez]

I don't hunt these days so my choice would be for target shooting at the range. All are great cartridges but ammo in 308 is cheaper than the other two & there are more rifle choices available in 308 therefore I would choose the 308.

 

[daniel craig]

None of the above. 7.62x54r because it’s common the world over even though it might not be so common here in the states.

 

[LoonWulf]

In all the years I owned .30-06 rifles, I never fired a 220 grain factory round. That was probably because I never hunted bear or moose when I owned a rifle in that chambering. For even the largest Maine deer I've shot (nearly 200 lbs), the 150-180 grain bullets have done the job quite well.

I still wouldn't go to the 220s I don't think, I'd shoot a harder 180s. I've run some 220s thru my 06s and they are getting heavy enough I want more case.

 

[WisBorn]

When I bought my first 30-06 (first rifle I bought back in 1984) I started with 150 grain core locks. They shot great. I wanted to see how accurate the rifle was after hunting with it a few years and tested 125, 150, 165, 180, 220 grain bullets. That rifle liked 150's from a few manufacturers. I did feel the accuracy of the 220 grain bullets was ok for hunting. I would only use them at shorter ranges do to the poor ballistics in a 30-06.

 

[Legionnaire]

My long-gone .30-06 preferred 165 grainers.

 

[Mosin77]

ONE gun, for the foreseeable future, to do everything you’d want to do with a rifle in North America?

.30-06

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One gun this year, to do what 90% of people do with their rifles. Shoot them recreationally and maybe shoot a deer or two.

.308 or 6.5cm flip a coin.

Buy a more specialized caliber or platform next year.