Gray Peterson
Member
At the moment, TriMet (the public transit system here in the Portland area) currently bans weapons on it's bus and MAX systems, even with a CHL.
At the moment, that's under challenge, because the rule was written before either the shall-issue law was passed or the preemption statute (1989 and 1995, respectively). Beforehand, Multnomah, Washington, and Clackamas Counties were California style crony issuance until the state legislature said no more and passed the shall-issue law. However, TriMet never changed it's rules to comply with it.
TriMet's legal department has been working on it, and it looks like they agree that the state gives them absolutely zero authority to throw out CHL holders. I've been in communication with TriMet's legal team on this, and they will suggest a repeal or a rewrite of the rule.
I made it clear on some points of the law that were either not known or not clear. One was cites of state statute in regards to loaded carrying of a firearm. The state gives the cities and counties the authority to ban the loaded carrying of a firearm (even open carry). However, the law specifically says that any such ordinance MUST grant an exemption for CHL holders. Only Beaverton and Portland have the anti-loaded carrying laws on the books, and Portland is violating the state law by saying that's it's only an "affirmative defense, not an exception". So, open carry outside of Beaverton and Portland without a CHL: Legal. Open carry within Beaverton and Portland with a CHL: Legal, and Open carry within Beaverton and Portland without a CHL: Illegal.
However, once they do that, the TriMet general manager must send it to the Board of Directors, and the Board of Directors are appointed by the Governor of the State. Since for the last 16 years, the governor's mansion has been controlled by the Democrats, we can be sure that they will obstruct any attempt to comply with the law.
When the hearings do occur, we have to pack to the meeting room, and make it very clear that if they refuse to repeal the rule, they will be sued. EVERYONE pro-gun activist attending must say that. Right now, TriMet's under a lot of financial pain because of the loss of Measure 28, and if we make it clear to them that we're going to drain them by the pocketbook with their legal team (Who generally agrees with us on this issue), they'll comply.
At the moment, that's under challenge, because the rule was written before either the shall-issue law was passed or the preemption statute (1989 and 1995, respectively). Beforehand, Multnomah, Washington, and Clackamas Counties were California style crony issuance until the state legislature said no more and passed the shall-issue law. However, TriMet never changed it's rules to comply with it.
TriMet's legal department has been working on it, and it looks like they agree that the state gives them absolutely zero authority to throw out CHL holders. I've been in communication with TriMet's legal team on this, and they will suggest a repeal or a rewrite of the rule.
I made it clear on some points of the law that were either not known or not clear. One was cites of state statute in regards to loaded carrying of a firearm. The state gives the cities and counties the authority to ban the loaded carrying of a firearm (even open carry). However, the law specifically says that any such ordinance MUST grant an exemption for CHL holders. Only Beaverton and Portland have the anti-loaded carrying laws on the books, and Portland is violating the state law by saying that's it's only an "affirmative defense, not an exception". So, open carry outside of Beaverton and Portland without a CHL: Legal. Open carry within Beaverton and Portland with a CHL: Legal, and Open carry within Beaverton and Portland without a CHL: Illegal.
However, once they do that, the TriMet general manager must send it to the Board of Directors, and the Board of Directors are appointed by the Governor of the State. Since for the last 16 years, the governor's mansion has been controlled by the Democrats, we can be sure that they will obstruct any attempt to comply with the law.
When the hearings do occur, we have to pack to the meeting room, and make it very clear that if they refuse to repeal the rule, they will be sued. EVERYONE pro-gun activist attending must say that. Right now, TriMet's under a lot of financial pain because of the loss of Measure 28, and if we make it clear to them that we're going to drain them by the pocketbook with their legal team (Who generally agrees with us on this issue), they'll comply.