Over/Under for a lady

[Armed012002]

My wife is wanting to get into informal/casual shooting and sporting clays with me. She tried using my Browning Citori White Lightning and enjoyed herself, but it doesn't fit her.

I was originally going to buy her a Beretta 391 Urika 2 Gold Sporting with a Wenig Ladies Stock. However, she is pretty set on an over/under.

We've checked out the Browning Citori Micro. It fits a little better. The LOP is 1/2 inch shorter than my Citori, but it's almost as uncomfortable to her as my Citori is.

She likes the Beretta 686 White Onyx. She thinks it's sexy

Here are my observations:

When she shoulders my Citori, her nose is about 4 inches away from her thumb. Whereas, when I shoulder it, my nose is about one inch away from my thumb. It's obvious the stock on my Citori is too long for her.

She cocks her head to the right quite a bit in order to center the rib and look straight down the rib.

In order for her to look straight down the rib, she only has one inch or less of the butt pad in her shoulder pocket.

She can barely reach the trigger. The pistol grip is too far away from the trigger for her.

She looks like a pretzel when she shoots my Citori

Here's our problem:

We live in Arkansas. We can't find a stock fitter in our area.

Maybe we can get Wenig to make a Ladies Stock for a Beretta 686?

But, if it still doesn't fit right, then what?

Maybe an adjustable comb is a good idea?

We would appreciate any advice on this. Remember that we can't find a stock fitter in our area.

 

[oneounceload]

Putting an adjustable comb AND a butt pad device will allow you to tweak just right; however, be careful not to upset the balance too much with a heavy unit.

There are professional stock fitters; some even travel around to the big shoots like state championships, zones, etc. You might try that for a good fitting for her

Once she gets it where it needs to be, she will love shooting it

 

[oneounceload]

dupe post

 

[sidibear]

Try a Browning Cynergy composite. The stock has an adjustable comb, adjustable position trigger and also different size recoil pads. That way you can adjust it yourself.

Oh, and you can get them in bright girly colours
http://www.browning.com/products/ca...gy-sporting-colored-composite-yellow-firearms

 

[oneounceload]

With her cocking her head like that, have you checked her eye dominance? Cross dominance occurs in women a lot more than men

 

[Armed012002]

Right hand, right eye dominate.

I'm going to see what Wenig will offer me since they advertise a Ladies Stock for semiautomatic shotguns.

From Wenig's web site:

http://www.wenig.com/styles.html

Wenig Ladies Stock - Our new Ladies Stocks are basically a "more extreme" version of our New American Style and are designed (down pitch & parallel comb) to help reduce the recoil. The Wenig Ladies Stock provides for a deeper Monte Carlo, more offset in the comb, an even closer grip, shorter length of pull, and an exaggerated toe out. With approximate dimensions of 1-5/8 x 1-5/8 x 3 x 13-1/4, an offset comb of 1/8", and a toe out of 1/2", this stock works great for both women and beginning youth shooters. You may also order our "High Comb" Ladies Stock, which features a 1/4" higher comb, making approximate dimensions 1-3/8 x 1-3/8 x 3 x 13-1/4. Click here to view our catalog insert on the Wenig Ladies Stock.

http://www.wenig.com/ladies.html

Those dimensions look a lot more appropriate than a standard stock.

 

[Armed012002]

Wenig will craft me a walnut stock of their "Ladies Stock" dimensions for $800. Add another $200 for an adjustable comb.

I have to weigh price with value. So I looked for alternatives.

I found Ken Rucker's Bump-Buster after a short Google search on shotgun related forums.

It's very interesting.

A Ken Rucker Bump-Buster, Pad Adjuster, and Adjustable Comb would set me back $650.

From the article "Why You Need Ken Rucker's Bump-Buster (TM) on Your Gunstock".

Ken Rucker's Bump-Buster (TM) Recoil Reduction System is a device installed in the butt of your gun, either a shotgun or a rifle, to retard the time that your gun moves rearward in recoil. People talk about these systems all the time as “reducing recoil”. They really don’t reduce the recoil, they spread the recoil out over a longer period of time, which changes it from a sharp slap to a push, and it only takes a fraction of a second of time for this to make a drastic difference in what your body feels. We’re not actually reducing recoil; we’re changing your body’s perception of the existing recoil.

The Bump-Buster is a “spring over hydraulic system”. We talk about hydraulic recoil systems – nobody has a pure hydraulic recoil reduction system because there’s not enough room in a shotgun or a rifle stock to insert a hydraulic cylinder large enough to take care of the recoil by itself. You have to have the spring for two reasons:

1) A helper spring aids in retarding the gun movement; and
2) A helper spring gives you a very positive, very fast return to get everything back to the zero point for the next shot.

From the article "Why You Need My Pad Adjuster on Your Shotgun":

Lady shooters almost universally benefit from the addition of a pad adjuster to their gun. Differences in gun fit between lady shooter sand men shooters that some people are not aware of include the facts that it’s a longer distance between a woman’s shoulder pocket to her cheekbone than it is on a man of the same stature, and also a woman’s shoulder pockets are narrower and at more of an angle than the shoulder pocket on a man where the gun fits. By having the pad adjuster on the back of the gun we’re able to drop the pad, which raises the whole gun up, straighten the shooter’s neck up when they mount the gun, and also we can toe the pad out, angle the pad so that it fits more snugly in their shoulder pocket and keeps them from twisting the gun in an effort to get the gun in some kind of comfortable position to shoot.

The pad adjuster that’s used at Speedbump Stockworks is our own design. It’s manufactured out of two 3/16” thick 6061-T651 aluminum plates. The plates have a piece of non-skid material that’s placed in between them at the time of installation to aid in final positioning of the pad adjuster when you get it set, to keep it from slipping from its desired location. My pad adjuster, unlike some, provides direct right and left cast adjustments as well as up and down drop adjustments and a full 360 degree rotation capability for cant location.

From the article "Why You Need an Adjustable Comb on Your Shotgun":

An adjustable comb is done by first cutting the comb from the stock. The same slice of wood cut off the top of the gunstock is re-attached with adjustable hardware, giving it the ability to move up and down and side-to-side. If necessary, a separate piece of wood can be carved to replace a damaged, poorly fit or inadequate adjustable comb. Some rudimentary comb hardware does not allow side-to-side movement at all.

Tools required for my comb hardware are provided with comb installation; they include one 3/32” hex key (Allen wrench) and multiple nylon spacers for height adjustment.

When you need to re-adjust for any reason, to compensate for weight gain or loss, heavy or light clothing or change of shooter, you’ll find the new comb adjustment can be accomplished in a matter of a few minutes.

Other gunsmiths use different comb hardware and different methods of tightening and loosening comb posts. Some use long set screws for height adjustment rather than the nylon spacers I use. I feel that nylon spacers are a much more positive means of adjustment overall.

Does anyone have any opinions on Wenig's and Ken Rucker's products?

 

[Red Cent]

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