I'm thinking a 9mm P99 AS is the next thing on my list. Anyone have any thoughts for or against buying one?
P99 AS Thoughts?
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Man, it is my all time fav gun. I could talk your ear off, but it seems like there has been a lot of questions about this gun, and I've typed so much about it lately.
Come check out the Walther section at:
www.handgunforum.net - There is a ton of topics on the P99.
Come check out the Walther section at:
www.handgunforum.net - There is a ton of topics on the P99.
Think of it as a glock thats more accurate, molded to your hand and much better looking. Mine is a tack driver ad I love it.
How would the P99 be more accurate than a glock? 
I suspect this is dependant on shooters than machines.
I suspect this is dependant on shooters than machines.I have the full size and compact. I love them both. It is the closest thing to what I would custom order I have found yet. Nice trigger with a fantastic reset, tenifer finish, a mag release I've really grown to like, a large back strap for those of us with big hands. The only real things I'd change would be a 10mm version and stainless mags but those are unimportant.
kayl:
You WON'T like a P99/AS...
Junk, crap, cheap wannabe Glock knockoffs! Don't waste your money.
BUT!
If you are determined to throw your money away on junk, please wait a month to think it over*...
Best Wishes,
J. Pomeroy
* I'll have saved the money to buy MY next P99 by then.. AS's are getting kinda scarce.. I wouldn't want to lose the last one to you!
Just kiddin'.. Fantastic pistol.
You WON'T like a P99/AS...
Junk, crap, cheap wannabe Glock knockoffs! Don't waste your money.
BUT!
If you are determined to throw your money away on junk, please wait a month to think it over*...
Best Wishes,
J. Pomeroy
* I'll have saved the money to buy MY next P99 by then.. AS's are getting kinda scarce.. I wouldn't want to lose the last one to you!
Just kiddin'.. Fantastic pistol.
I don't know how accurate your Glock is, but my P99 is accurate enough for me. When I've shot the G17 and G19, the accuracy wasn't as good.
I recently acquired a P99AS chambered in 40S&W, and absolutely love it! The ergonomics and accuracy are outstanding, and I especially like the fact that the gun came from the factory with a recoil spring that was actually strong enough to handle the 40S&W cartridge.
The stock trigger was a little on the heavy side, but replacing the striker spring with a lighter one has essentially fixed that problem. The SA trigger on my P99AS now breaks at around 3 lbs.
I do not think you'll regret getting one. Here are some images of mine:
The stock trigger was a little on the heavy side, but replacing the striker spring with a lighter one has essentially fixed that problem. The SA trigger on my P99AS now breaks at around 3 lbs.
I do not think you'll regret getting one. Here are some images of mine:
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I shoot my P99 A/S fullsize as accurate or more than 1911s. In fact, I quit throwing away cash into expensive 1911s.
I prev had a $1200 1911, and I outshot it with my SW99 - the S&W clone of the P99. Now, I have the fullsize P99 A/S - and its a tiny bit more accurate than the SW99.
U won't regret it.
I prev had a $1200 1911, and I outshot it with my SW99 - the S&W clone of the P99. Now, I have the fullsize P99 A/S - and its a tiny bit more accurate than the SW99.
U won't regret it.
This may stir it up a bit, but on the average, IMHO ALL Walther models are generally more accurate than guns of similar cost. They have very tight barrel to slide lock up and ergonomics help a great deal to make them accurate. In my experience my P99 QA 9mm is more accurate than my:
Officers ACP, Hi Power, Glock 23, Witness compact 40, Sig 225 & 228, Springfield 1911, Kahr PM, Walther P38 and PPK/s. The only gun that matches it in my accuracy tests is my Walther P5. When I shoot I always have 2 or 3 of the above that I put head to head at different distances just for fun.
I wish I had H&K's to try and the new S&W MP.
That being said though, someone who shoots a Glock all his life and picks up a P99 will probably find the Glock more accurate. Guns are generally more accurate than the shooter. My tagets with my first Glock 17 looked like I was shooting with buckshot as I had no idea at the time what trigger control meant.
You can't go wrong with any of the big names, get what appeals most to you. At the gun store I use two methods to see if a gun is right for me:
1. Close your eyes and aim it at something, open your eyes and see if you are close to target. That means the grip is right for you.
2. Dry fire it once pulling the trigger slowly and see if the front sight jerks in both single and double action.
3. How cool does it look?
Officers ACP, Hi Power, Glock 23, Witness compact 40, Sig 225 & 228, Springfield 1911, Kahr PM, Walther P38 and PPK/s. The only gun that matches it in my accuracy tests is my Walther P5. When I shoot I always have 2 or 3 of the above that I put head to head at different distances just for fun.
I wish I had H&K's to try and the new S&W MP.
That being said though, someone who shoots a Glock all his life and picks up a P99 will probably find the Glock more accurate. Guns are generally more accurate than the shooter. My tagets with my first Glock 17 looked like I was shooting with buckshot as I had no idea at the time what trigger control meant.
You can't go wrong with any of the big names, get what appeals most to you. At the gun store I use two methods to see if a gun is right for me:
1. Close your eyes and aim it at something, open your eyes and see if you are close to target. That means the grip is right for you.
2. Dry fire it once pulling the trigger slowly and see if the front sight jerks in both single and double action.
3. How cool does it look?
P99 AS
Accurate, reliable, safe, decent DA trigger, great SA trigger, nice price.
What's not to like?
Accurate, reliable, safe, decent DA trigger, great SA trigger, nice price.
What's not to like?
Anna's Dad
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I bought the P99 DAO in .40 S&W. I really wish I got the AS in 9mm :banghead:. So if you buy the AS and wish you had a DAO, I'm ready to trade .
.I love my P99 in .40 with the AS trigger (bought it years ago when the only option was the AS). I've for a P99C with the QA, didn't like it very much.
Most people who have shot mine comment on how good it feels in their hands.
I also like the second strike capability.
Most people who have shot mine comment on how good it feels in their hands.
I also like the second strike capability.
In my experience, the only gun that matches it for accuracy, reliability, and ergonomics is the H&K P7. I love my P99 and carry it as my primary off-duty piece.
Last weekend, I went shooting with a co-worker and got him hooked. He's selling his Glock and buying one.
Last weekend, I went shooting with a co-worker and got him hooked. He's selling his Glock and buying one.
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As to the "Walther's being inherently more accurate than comparable Glocks".
All I have to go by is I've had a Sig P239 for over a decade. My P239 has in the past been the accuracy standard by which I compare my other compacts.. I bought two Glock 26's when they were the "flavor of the month" in the gun magazines and when I shot them head to head with the Sig P239 the Sig was definitely a bit more accurate. I'm only saying the Sig was more accurate than the two Glocks I had.
I bought my Walther P99c/AS recently and surprisingly it is as, if not MORE accurate than my Sig P239. I shot them head to head and the Sig is just slightly more accurate at self defense range, but the Sig has a set of Crimson Trace Lasergrips on it. I didn't shoot them both using factory sights, (I need to do that), but I believe the Walther is more accurate than the Sig.. Not a lot, but more accurate. The Walther is amazingly accurate.
I agree with the person who said any quality name brand pistol will probably be capable of more potential accuracy than 99.9% of pistol owners are capable of taking advantage of.
My personal thoughts comparing the Walther and the Glocks I owned is that the Walther has much, much better grip ergonomics... A better trigger (striker), and other such things that make it heads and heels a better pistol, FOR MY PERSONAL TASTE AND NEEDS, than the Glock 26, or any other pistol I have owned in the past, or own now.
If you are happy with your Glocks, that's all that matters.
Best Wishes,
J. Pomeroy
As to the "Walther's being inherently more accurate than comparable Glocks".
All I have to go by is I've had a Sig P239 for over a decade. My P239 has in the past been the accuracy standard by which I compare my other compacts.. I bought two Glock 26's when they were the "flavor of the month" in the gun magazines and when I shot them head to head with the Sig P239 the Sig was definitely a bit more accurate. I'm only saying the Sig was more accurate than the two Glocks I had.
I bought my Walther P99c/AS recently and surprisingly it is as, if not MORE accurate than my Sig P239. I shot them head to head and the Sig is just slightly more accurate at self defense range, but the Sig has a set of Crimson Trace Lasergrips on it. I didn't shoot them both using factory sights, (I need to do that), but I believe the Walther is more accurate than the Sig.. Not a lot, but more accurate. The Walther is amazingly accurate.
I agree with the person who said any quality name brand pistol will probably be capable of more potential accuracy than 99.9% of pistol owners are capable of taking advantage of.
My personal thoughts comparing the Walther and the Glocks I owned is that the Walther has much, much better grip ergonomics... A better trigger (striker), and other such things that make it heads and heels a better pistol, FOR MY PERSONAL TASTE AND NEEDS, than the Glock 26, or any other pistol I have owned in the past, or own now.
If you are happy with your Glocks, that's all that matters.
Best Wishes,
J. Pomeroy
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The P99 is the best polymer pistol out there IMO. I like the design so much I have 3 of them.
Buy the P99 you wont be disappointed.
Buy the P99 you wont be disappointed.
How does the reliability (read FTF,FTE) of a Walther compare to other brands, such as Glock and SIG that are near perfect? I'm not trying to start a fight between Glock-lovers and Glock-haters, I just don't like the ergonomics of Glocks and I'm interested in other brands of polymer guns. BUT, I need reliability.
OJ
OJ
One of my two P99 AS 9mms recently past the 10K mark. Zero issues. Never a hint of a bobble. This was shooting Federal American Eagle, WWB, Federal HydraShoks, and Speer Gold Dots.
I'm a newby to Walther. I bought a P99c AS. I've had it for several months with no FTF or FTE's. The mag with the grip extension is definately more comfortable for me to shoot but for CCW I use the short mag. I've been shooting mostly WWB. It snaps a bit (remember, I'm new to this), but I'm sure I'll get used to it with a few hundred more rounds. It appears accurate to me--I needed to adjust the drift a bit, it was shooting left of POA.
I really like its looks. Shipwreck keeps posting pics of his chromed ones so I may do that later because I think that makes them look even sexier. It strips very easily for cleaning. I really like the AS setup as you have many options for trigger behavior.
I am very pleased with mine and if I lost my CCW firearm, I would immediately buy another Walther P99c to replace it.
-terry
I really like its looks. Shipwreck keeps posting pics of his chromed ones so I may do that later because I think that makes them look even sexier. It strips very easily for cleaning. I really like the AS setup as you have many options for trigger behavior.
I am very pleased with mine and if I lost my CCW firearm, I would immediately buy another Walther P99c to replace it.
-terry
I have to concur with the 'buy' recommendations. Both the QA and AS have triggers that are smooth and the gun is veritable 'bullet laser'. The recoil of the 0.40 is stout but not uncontrollable. I thing the 9mm is preferable for competition and expense of ammo. Open one up and you'll be amazed at the quality.
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