Paintballs and Cats...
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coltrane679
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Thanks for perpetuating the image of gun owners as cretins.
Preacherman
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Depends on the weight of the paintball and the velocity at which it's launched. IIRC, the US Army determined some decades ago that any projectile hitting the human body with more than 64 ft/lbs. of energy could inflict injury. If the weight and velocity calculate out to anywhere close to this figure (maybe considerably less, given that cats are a lot smaller than humans), then yes, it could cause injury or death.
'Card
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I don't think you'd permanently injure the cat at 15 yards. I've been hit with a lot of paintballs, and they sting, but I can't see one damaging a cat's internal organs or anything - not unless you pumped them into it at point-blank range.
As far as the second post... I kind of like being a cretin, thank you very much.
As far as the second post... I kind of like being a cretin, thank you very much.
Coltrane...
You might check out my reasoning before you throw out the "c" word.
Preacherman
I'm asking because I need to find a way to positively identify cats for animal control (I don't have a video cam) before they will issue 'at large' tickets to irresponsible cat owners and I *didn't* want to injure or kill the animals.
Thanks for your reply.
Biker
You might check out my reasoning before you throw out the "c" word.
Preacherman
I'm asking because I need to find a way to positively identify cats for animal control (I don't have a video cam) before they will issue 'at large' tickets to irresponsible cat owners and I *didn't* want to injure or kill the animals.
Thanks for your reply.
Biker
V4Vendetta
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Good for you biker. My grandma had the same problem. Except she just used a shotgun. I've never played paintball so I'm no help to you on that subject.
One of Many
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I would think that the toxicity of the paint would be the primary problem, assuming the shock of impact didn't cause internal damage. Cats clean themselves by licking their body with the tongue, so any toxin on their fur will be ingested.
Indy7373
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Philistine does have a nice ring to it, but I myself have always been partial to lummox or shmuck.
'Card
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'Philistine' works, but I'm already a redneck and a hillbilly, so I figured being a 'cretin' was probably sort of a promotion.
Back to the original topic though...
I'm 90% certain that common paintball paint isn't toxic. I've seen guys get hit in or around the mouth, and they didn't immediately start projectile vomiting or anything.
Personally, I'd be pretty comfortable marking the cats with a paintball gun. I mean, worst-case scenario is what? Dead cat? Big deal. If you aren't comfortable with that though, you might consider a paintball-style grenade. I'm not certain if they still make them or not, but they used to make these cannisters that you could pull a pin out of and throw, and when the timer expired they would spray paint (non-toxic non-permanent paintball paint) over everything within a certain radius. Seems like that way you could mark the cats without actually hitting them with anything.
Back to the original topic though...
I'm 90% certain that common paintball paint isn't toxic. I've seen guys get hit in or around the mouth, and they didn't immediately start projectile vomiting or anything.
Personally, I'd be pretty comfortable marking the cats with a paintball gun. I mean, worst-case scenario is what? Dead cat? Big deal. If you aren't comfortable with that though, you might consider a paintball-style grenade. I'm not certain if they still make them or not, but they used to make these cannisters that you could pull a pin out of and throw, and when the timer expired they would spray paint (non-toxic non-permanent paintball paint) over everything within a certain radius. Seems like that way you could mark the cats without actually hitting them with anything.
rero360
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when my cousin got a paintball gun for christmas a number of years ago we proceeded to try it out on our grandfather's beagle, distance was probably about 25 to 30 meters or so and it didn't really bother him, just kind of looked at us like ***? as far as cats go, I say skip the paintballs and go right to the .22 or .17hornet and perform the 3 Ss
Thanks for the replies guys. I have a pellet gun that would send the pesky buggers to the big catbox in the sky if that was my intention, but a lot of cat owners don't really care that much about their animals and will just get another. So my reasoning is, hit 'em in the wallet and they'll think twice. An 'at large' ticket is pretty spendy in these parts.
'Sides, my general rule is, I don't kill it unless I want to eat it or it wants to eat me.
Biker
'Sides, my general rule is, I don't kill it unless I want to eat it or it wants to eat me.
Biker
George S.
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How about contacting your local Aniumal Control or animal shelters and see if they have traps you can use. These are wire mesh boxes that will let a small animal in (tempt it with some food) and a door closes behind it trapping the cat inside. You can then take cat and cage to the animal control people.
If the cats have collars and tags, or even a microchip, they can be identified and the owners can be notified and cited where required. If the owners don't claim the cat and the cat is healthy, it will most like be put up for adoption (maybe at the other end of the state )
If the cats have collars and tags, or even a microchip, they can be identified and the owners can be notified and cited where required. If the owners don't claim the cat and the cat is healthy, it will most like be put up for adoption (maybe at the other end of the state
)Bartholomew Roberts
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1) Paintballs are just filled with colored detergent and are non-toxic.
2) When I was in Japan, they used to have dye-marking 6mm BBs for airsoft that left a little splotch when they hit something (usually). The plastic airsoft BBs hit with a lot less impact than a paintball. Particularly when fired out of one of the spring action airsoft guns. The downside is the mark is pretty small and you'll have to be closer to the target; but a domestic cat shouldn't be too hard to stalk (at least the first time).
2) When I was in Japan, they used to have dye-marking 6mm BBs for airsoft that left a little splotch when they hit something (usually). The plastic airsoft BBs hit with a lot less impact than a paintball. Particularly when fired out of one of the spring action airsoft guns. The downside is the mark is pretty small and you'll have to be closer to the target; but a domestic cat shouldn't be too hard to stalk (at least the first time).
MS .45
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Most paintball markers have the ability to be dialed down in velocity by controling how much CO2 in released with each shot. Tinker with the speed of the shots until you are satisfied that no permanant injury will be inflicted. Aslo remember that, when shot over a certain distance, paintballs tend to have a flight-path that is erratic. Because of this your aim will suffer at distances over 50-75 feet.
Manedwolf
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And an owner righteously coming after you to beat you within an inch of your life for killing their pet?
That'd be my reaction. I happen to LIKE my animals, thanks.
V4Vendetta
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"'Sides, my general rule is, I don't kill it unless I want to eat it or it wants to eat me."
What if it's just a bandit who wants to kill you but not eat you?
What if it's just a bandit who wants to kill you but not eat you?
Manedwolf
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Okay. THIS one gets the "making gun owners look like cretins" label.
Hunting is one thing. Taking pleasure in shooting at harmless domestic animals bred to depend on and trust humans doesn't indicate anything but a sadistic streak and a profound overcompensation for lack of endowment.
Sindawe
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99.9% of the paintballs on that market are non-toxic, so the issue of the cat injesting the paint is not an issue. The cats NOT gonna be happy, cause the stuff tastes HORRIBLE. If you cut down the pressure on the marker so that its only shooting at about 200 fps or less, that will minimize the chance of doing permanent injury to the offending cat.
Most cats are programmed to avoid pain and scary things. Mine HATE the paintball guns and even the "scary bottle" (CO2 tank with a valve). No, I've not shot them, just one or two blank discharges in the house and now they are GONE at the sight of 'em, or sound of my working the action on the pump guns. One or two pops with the marker, followed up by a discharge of compressed air or CO2 should condition them pretty well that your property is NOT a good place.
Most cats are programmed to avoid pain and scary things. Mine HATE the paintball guns and even the "scary bottle" (CO2 tank with a valve). No, I've not shot them, just one or two blank discharges in the house and now they are GONE at the sight of 'em, or sound of my working the action on the pump guns. One or two pops with the marker, followed up by a discharge of compressed air or CO2 should condition them pretty well that your property is NOT a good place.
auschip
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A paintball gun can injure an animal at 15 yards. I would actually switch to an airsoft gun instead. They use a lighter round and are less likely to cause an injury. Plus, it doesn't leave a mark on the animals for the neighbor to complain about.
V4Vendetta
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"I would actually switch to an airsoft gun instead. "
If he did that, they animal control folks couldn't tell what owners to ticket. I'm not aware of any airsoft gun that uses painted BB's.
If he did that, they animal control folks couldn't tell what owners to ticket. I'm not aware of any airsoft gun that uses painted BB's.
HankB
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Friend of mine had a better idea.
Neighbor's cats were coming in his yard ALL THE TIME and making a mess, and neighbor didn't care . . . you know, "Cats need to roam" and all that nonsense.
So he set out a life trap and eventually caught one of the neighbor's cats.
Early in the morning, about the time the cat would be going back to get fed, he liberally doused the cat with skunk screen and let it go home.
Owner had a lot of cleaning up to do inside, as rugs, furniture, etc. all gained the "aroma" of skunk. Guy eventually did away with the kitty door; last I heard, the cats were being kept inside where they belong.
George S...
I did purchase a cat trap last year and it worked well, but one or two families went to the shelter and picked their cats up and brought them home and now the cats are too smart to fall for the trap a second or third time.
I'm looking for a plan B before I'm forced to employ the 'nuclear option'.
Biker
I did purchase a cat trap last year and it worked well, but one or two families went to the shelter and picked their cats up and brought them home and now the cats are too smart to fall for the trap a second or third time.
I'm looking for a plan B before I'm forced to employ the 'nuclear option'.
Biker
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