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A friend I did some work for who used to shoot in IPSC With my dad tried to give me a 10mm he had. Personally I'm a .45 kind of guy so I wasn't interested. The funny thing is he's been shooting a .38 super competitively for years and decided he wanted to shoot somthing different. He said he got tired of getting smoked by guys he used to beat on a regular basis with his super so he tried to give it to me. I settled on a S&W 617 ss w/6" barrel with the full lug. It matches my 625 686 and last but not least my 629. I think I came out ahead anyway. I didn't want to reload 10mm when I'm already reloading so darn many things to begin with. And if I ever decide I want a 10mm Ill go buy a .40!