Pataki calls for tougher gun laws after cop killings

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Once more they are showin how stupid they are. They can pass all the "tougher laws" they want, and for some reason the BGs will be better armed than after they passed the last "tough Law.":fire:
Vote out all anti-gun, unconstitutioal, lackies.

Pataki calls for tougher gun laws after cop killings
Thursday, March 11, 2004
By ROBERT GAVIN
ADVANCE ALBANY BUREAU
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ALBANY -- On the first anniversary of the day two undercover detectives were shot to death in Tompkinsville, Gov. George Pataki yesterday called on lawmakers to toughen the state's gun laws.

"The murder of these dedicated undercover detectives during an undercover gun buy-and-bust operation serves as a chilling reminder of the dangers our courageous law enforcement officers face every day," Pataki said in a prepared statement, noting he has "repeatedly" called for stronger gun laws.

"On this difficult day, the thoughts and prayers of all New Yorkers are with the families and friends of the two officers who were killed," said Pataki, who called the deaths "cold-blooded murder."

On March 10, 2003, undercover NYPD Detectives Rodney Andrews and James Nemorin were shot and their bodies dumped on Hannah Street.

The undercover investigators had bought an illegal handgun from an accused Stapleton gun dealer -- but that charge alone would merit only a Class D felony upon conviction, possibly punishable by probation.

Under a bill pushed by Pataki, illegal gun sales could land dealers behind bars for up to seven years. He also wants to increase penalties for gun thugs who carry multiple weapons. Present law mandates at least two years in prison -- and up to seven -- for those found carrying 20 or more guns. But they can have as many as 19 and still face misdemeanor penalties, no worse than a year in jail.

Anyone caught with three or more guns would face the new penalties. If caught with 10 or more guns, defendants would face a mandatory sentence of five to 25 years in prison.

In addition, gun traffickers who intentionally lower the number of weapons they sell during single transactions to avoid harsher penalties, would face more jail time and stricter felony charges under the governor's bill, officials said.

"This legislation would save lives by taking these dangerous weapons off our streets, and also protect our law-enforcement officials who risk their lives to stop gun traffickers," Pataki said in the statement.

The governor's gun legislation has passed the Republican-controlled state Senate, where it is sponsored by Buffalo-area Sen. Dale Volker, but has faltered in the Democratic-controlled Assembly.

Robert Gavin covers state government for the Advance. He may be reached at [email protected].
 
The NY Republicans are among the worst in the nation. Only Illinois is in the same ballpark. California's GOP is actually quite good on guns, overall.
 
OK so let me see, he wants to close some penalty loopholes on gun criminals and illegal gun sellers and what might be the problem in that?

Dont see him pushing for more controls, or am I missing something?

WildsoundsoktomeAlaska
 
OK so let me see, he wants to close some penalty loopholes on gun criminals and illegal gun sellers and what might be the problem in that?

Dont see him pushing for more controls, or am I missing something?

WildsoundsoktomeAlaska

Anyone caught with three or more guns would face the new penalties. If caught with 10 or more guns, defendants would face a mandatory sentence of five to 25 years in prison.

Imagine that you're going to the range and get pulled over for a traffic violation. The officer sees that you have 3 or more guns in the car. Now you're an illegal gun trafficer until you prove otherwise.
 
Sorry that doesnt wash.

You cant have handguns without a permit, accordingly, possesion of all of them is presumptively legal...

Nor is the innocentt posession of 50 rifles in your car presumptively illegal.

WildnotallcontrolisbadcontrolAlaska
 
Sorry that doesnt wash.

You cant have handguns without a permit, accordingly, possesion of all of them is presumptively legal...

Nor is the innocentt posession of 50 rifles in your car presumptively illegal.

WildnotallcontrolisbadcontrolAlaska

You are using logic and common sense, which is a very bad thing to do when reading law or regulations.:D
 
You are using logic and common sense, which is a very bad thing to do when reading law or regulations.

No kidding!!! This applys to ALL laws not just those covering firearms and other weapons

By the the way what does RINO stand for?

Bill Meadows
 
You are using logic and common sense, which is a very bad thing to do when reading law or regulations.

No actually it has nothing to do with common sense, its just the plain meaning of the law:D

So actually maybe you should just admit you are wrong?

WildsotypicalAlaska
 
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