!! people who fire 50 rounds through a gun, then sell it
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Definitely it's usually a matter of not trying before they buy. Although, not all problems can be forseen by renting the gun at a range. One guy traded me a G23 with only 50 shots through it, because it was too big for him to carry concealed. I really doubt a range owner would take kindly to someone sticking a rental gun down their pants.
That sounds really dirty.
That sounds really dirty.
Stiletto Null
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I sold my Remington 597 after about 600 rounds. Got it used for $100, sold it (needed cash, and I didn't especially like it anyway) for $80. *shrug*
bumm
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I'd expect that there are a lot of very lightly used guns available from guys who bought a new handgun and then found out how difficult it is to shoot a handgun accurately. They either decide the gun is no good, or that they just can't shoot handguns. If they'd just learn the fundamentals, and then stick with it a while...
(And no, I'm not talking about the guys in this thread.)
Marty
(And no, I'm not talking about the guys in this thread.)
Marty
Stainless Chili
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Sure, that's me, times a couple dozen times.
I don't like firing guns I do not own. Guess I'm funny that way.
Usually the cause is a deal too good to pass up or a piece I've always wanted for a design reason. Usually a couple trips to the range will decide if it is a keeper or a trader.
Like the H&K USPC 40. Always wanted it, found a good deal after waiting a year and a half. When I finally shot it, I found the grip and weight still not to my liking, despite hefting a new copy several times in shops. I sold it for $25 less that I paid.
The next deal might go to someone who wants a P239 in .40S&W, but I've a feeling that gun was made for me. I've been waiting a couple years for the right deal to come along. Like a guy undergoing a divorce or who needs fast cash, or someone who buys one and finds the recoil too much for them.
I don't like firing guns I do not own. Guess I'm funny that way.
Usually the cause is a deal too good to pass up or a piece I've always wanted for a design reason. Usually a couple trips to the range will decide if it is a keeper or a trader.
Like the H&K USPC 40. Always wanted it, found a good deal after waiting a year and a half. When I finally shot it, I found the grip and weight still not to my liking, despite hefting a new copy several times in shops. I sold it for $25 less that I paid.
The next deal might go to someone who wants a P239 in .40S&W, but I've a feeling that gun was made for me. I've been waiting a couple years for the right deal to come along. Like a guy undergoing a divorce or who needs fast cash, or someone who buys one and finds the recoil too much for them.
PlayboyPenguin:
The Old Fuff seldom buys a new gun, and then likely out of desperation...
Used guns are often better made then the current crop, that reflect numerous cost-cutting moves. A new gun is only new until you walk out of the shop with it. Then its value drops like a rock because regardless of its condition it is perceived to be used. Used guns often increase in value over time, especially if they have become classics (or like the Fuff they may be considered antiques and really go up).
A great number of guns are bought by the original owner, taken home, and put away for a time of trouble that never comes. Then the owner get tired of having it around and offers it for sale. I only wish to give the poor thing a new home where it will be happy among its own kind.
Never the less we need folks like you. If it weren't for new buyers there wouldn't be anything in the used market for people like me to take advantage of.
The Old Fuff seldom buys a new gun, and then likely out of desperation...
Used guns are often better made then the current crop, that reflect numerous cost-cutting moves. A new gun is only new until you walk out of the shop with it. Then its value drops like a rock because regardless of its condition it is perceived to be used. Used guns often increase in value over time, especially if they have become classics (or like the Fuff they may be considered antiques and really go up).
A great number of guns are bought by the original owner, taken home, and put away for a time of trouble that never comes. Then the owner get tired of having it around and offers it for sale. I only wish to give the poor thing a new home where it will be happy among its own kind.
Never the less we need folks like you. If it weren't for new buyers there wouldn't be anything in the used market for people like me to take advantage of.
absolute0
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Nothing wrong with getting rid of or trading a gun that's not your cup of tea, but personally...I love those guys
I made the mistake of selling a very early Ruger Single Six one time and later decided I just had to own one again, When the time came, I had some extra money laying around, ao I ordered a Ruger Blackhawk .357 at the same time, thinking they were the same grip size. Well the grip may be the same, but the frame and cylinder are huge compared to the Single Six. I don't think I've shot a full box of ammo through that Blackhawk, and it just sits in my safe.
The weight and balance is just so different to me. My S&W Mod 19 is so graceful, and even my GP100 is a good feeling gun, and some of my other .357's all feel good in my hand.
Now the NEW new "Slimmer" old style 50th anniversary model is out, and I like it better, but I'm not selling one to buy one. I stopped doing that years ago. So I guess the Blackhawk will sit there until I'm gone, and my wife sells it for $50 to get rid of it.
The weight and balance is just so different to me. My S&W Mod 19 is so graceful, and even my GP100 is a good feeling gun, and some of my other .357's all feel good in my hand.
Now the NEW new "Slimmer" old style 50th anniversary model is out, and I like it better, but I'm not selling one to buy one. I stopped doing that years ago. So I guess the Blackhawk will sit there until I'm gone, and my wife sells it for $50 to get rid of it.
Ridge
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And where do you live Depicts?
Standing Wolf
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Well, heck! I've bought plenty of guns without even seeing snap shots of them.
Hardtarget
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A month ago my son bought a HK in 40 cal (not sure what model)...paid half what the box sticker showed. The guy said he shot one box through it. Looks great, shootsgreat. I, personally have never walked up on one of these deals.
I haev been given six firearms over my life...they well used but well loved also. I'm glad to have them in my safe.
Mark.
I haev been given six firearms over my life...they well used but well loved also. I'm glad to have them in my safe.
Mark.
Zen21Tao
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I have friend that changes guns like underwear
I have a friend that does this. He constantly has 3 to 4 guns on layaway and when he gets one off layaway he puts something else in its place. Then many of his new guns may be fireed about 25-50 times then get trade it in for something new. He has probably around 65 guns he wont sell and another 15 on consignment at a local gun store. Four weeks ago he bought a Winchester shotgun and sold it about 10 days ago when he got a Benelli. He hadn't even fired it. About 2 months ago while he had 4 guns of layaway at his favorite local gunshop and went looking with me at another gun store where he ended up buying a .357 the next day.
I have a friend that does this. He constantly has 3 to 4 guns on layaway and when he gets one off layaway he puts something else in its place. Then many of his new guns may be fireed about 25-50 times then get trade it in for something new. He has probably around 65 guns he wont sell and another 15 on consignment at a local gun store. Four weeks ago he bought a Winchester shotgun and sold it about 10 days ago when he got a Benelli. He hadn't even fired it. About 2 months ago while he had 4 guns of layaway at his favorite local gunshop and went looking with me at another gun store where he ended up buying a .357 the next day.
Bluecard
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I can't count how many times I have done this. Sometimes I've been able to break even, others, I've lost a little. It's just that you never know how the gun is going to work for you until you shoot it. Guns seem to be one of the few expensive things you buy without being able to try out. Too bad their not like buying cars or shoes. If you try to rent a gun from a local shop, they always seem not to have the gun you're really interested in shooting. Most of the time, unless its a big POS, it ends up in the safe and not sold though... Such is life
It depends on the discount at original purchase
A few years back, I made a sizable purchase, let's say north of $20,000.00, and my at-purchase discount was 20%. So, later, when I discovered that I could not fire the Ruger No. 1 sporter in .45-70 Gov't and sold it after one box of ammo, I lost nothing. I sold it for exactly what I bought it. I suspect that my case is NOT the norm. Those folks are just restless, I guess.
I have heard MANY of a case of I have to pay the bills. Those are the instances that bother me for folks. A man should never have to sell is guns to pay the gas bill. But, the government and the middle east governments are doing their darnest to see that happens, intentionally or not. And the worst case of all time, I heard a guy saying to the buyer that he was, selling them to pay for his divorce lawyer. Yikes!
Doc2005
A few years back, I made a sizable purchase, let's say north of $20,000.00, and my at-purchase discount was 20%. So, later, when I discovered that I could not fire the Ruger No. 1 sporter in .45-70 Gov't and sold it after one box of ammo, I lost nothing. I sold it for exactly what I bought it. I suspect that my case is NOT the norm. Those folks are just restless, I guess.
I have heard MANY of a case of I have to pay the bills. Those are the instances that bother me for folks. A man should never have to sell is guns to pay the gas bill. But, the government and the middle east governments are doing their darnest to see that happens, intentionally or not. And the worst case of all time, I heard a guy saying to the buyer that he was, selling them to pay for his divorce lawyer. Yikes!
Doc2005
wild billz
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that works for me
That's how I got my Glock 23! Someone bought it, fired 50 rounds through it, then decided they didn't like it. I got it for 400 bucks out the door!
That's how I got my Glock 23! Someone bought it, fired 50 rounds through it, then decided they didn't like it. I got it for 400 bucks out the door!
Rick O'Shea
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Have you noticed how many S&W 500's there are on Gunbroker?
PlayboyPenguin
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That is because people see them and go "Wow, look at that..." then the first time they fire them they are like "Owww!!! Look at what that did to my hand!"
Working Man
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Eyes bigger than the hand does in a lot of people.... more/cheaper for me.
bogie
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I know a competitive shooter who will decide the fate of a new match barrel within the first 25-50 rounds.
He wins a lot.
The ones that don't make it are used for practice.
He wins a lot.
The ones that don't make it are used for practice.
I have done both, bought and sold lightly used guns, and will continue to do so. I like to try things before I buy, but that isn't always an option. Unfortunately, I sometimes get "convinced" I need a certain gun, only to find out later that I don't really like it.
Unless it has some sentimental value, I don't see the point in hanging onto a gun that I seldom, if ever, shoot. My only rule is that any money that I get from selling a gun has to go to buying another one. I bought a Freedom Arms .454 from a buddy that didn't need it. He had a .44 mag that he liked for hunting and seldom shot the .454 anymore. I have Springfield XD sub-compact that I will probably sell in the next couple of months. I bought it for CCW, thinking it would replace what I currently carry, but changed my mind after I decided that I what I carry now is just too comfortable and concealable to replace.
As for taking a loss, it usually isn't all that bad and guns certainly hold their value better than most things.
Unless it has some sentimental value, I don't see the point in hanging onto a gun that I seldom, if ever, shoot. My only rule is that any money that I get from selling a gun has to go to buying another one. I bought a Freedom Arms .454 from a buddy that didn't need it. He had a .44 mag that he liked for hunting and seldom shot the .454 anymore. I have Springfield XD sub-compact that I will probably sell in the next couple of months. I bought it for CCW, thinking it would replace what I currently carry, but changed my mind after I decided that I what I carry now is just too comfortable and concealable to replace.
As for taking a loss, it usually isn't all that bad and guns certainly hold their value better than most things.
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I've only sold one gun in the past, a Beretta 92FS, and I regretted it, so I don't do it anymore.
I don't have a problem buying milsurps (how much more used can you get), but I don't buy used pistols/revolers/deer rifles because I expect them to be accurate and there are too many variables with a used gun in that dept.
I probably wouldn't have a problem buying a used shotgun, I see 870's and others in great shape all the time in pawn shops, gun shows, etc., but they usually want new gun prices so I never went that route.
I don't have a problem buying milsurps (how much more used can you get), but I don't buy used pistols/revolers/deer rifles because I expect them to be accurate and there are too many variables with a used gun in that dept.
I probably wouldn't have a problem buying a used shotgun, I see 870's and others in great shape all the time in pawn shops, gun shows, etc., but they usually want new gun prices so I never went that route.
I love those guys, otherwise I would not now own an ANIB Beretta 92FS, or ANIB Ruger KP90DC, or ANIB Ruger SS Bearcat, plus several others.
I have also sold many guns without ever firing them. Some were bought used and used for trading fodder, others were bought new when I had a nice employee discount and I sold them at a profit.
I currently have a number of guns that I have not fired, some new, some used. I buy them because I can, plus I like them.
poppyThree things:
1) When the nearest range that rents guns is 7 hours away, roundtrip, "try before you buy" becomes a financial liability.
2) My apologies for hawking my SIG 229 after repeated FTEs (eject AND extract) after two cleanings and one box of ammo. Guess I expect better from a factory-new modern gun.
3) Some of my best purchases have been lightly used guns. I make less than 10k/year (college student) and I suspect I'd own 25% less guns than I do now if others didn't lightly use then trade. All good and well if you don't do it, but understand that there are those of us that meet certain unique circumstances who don't have that luxury.
1) When the nearest range that rents guns is 7 hours away, roundtrip, "try before you buy" becomes a financial liability.
2) My apologies for hawking my SIG 229 after repeated FTEs (eject AND extract) after two cleanings and one box of ammo. Guess I expect better from a factory-new modern gun.
3) Some of my best purchases have been lightly used guns. I make less than 10k/year (college student) and I suspect I'd own 25% less guns than I do now if others didn't lightly use then trade. All good and well if you don't do it, but understand that there are those of us that meet certain unique circumstances who don't have that luxury.
Justin
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Firearms are one of the few consumer products still made that don't have any sort of short or medium-term obsolescence. I have absolutely no problem with buying used guns. It's like buying a used car, I don't eat the depreciation.
The only guns that I buy new are likely to be ones that I would not be able to find on the used market.
The only guns that I buy new are likely to be ones that I would not be able to find on the used market.
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