Philadelphia Gun Shop Closing

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For all you old time Philly shooters, this mornings Inquirer had an article that Colosimo's Gun Shop at 9th & Spring Garden Sts was closing shop after some forty years of doing business there. He's had some legal problems for the past six months and the nice BATF people are yanking his FFL. He had all the Philly Police business tied up for years and I bought my S&W Model 29 from him in 1968 when no one else had them in stock. We will miss that store. Very few gun shops are left in Philly these days. :(
 
Here's the story...

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20090923_Controversial_Phila__gun_shop_to_close.html


Posted on Wed, Sep. 23, 2009

After years of controversy,
Colosimo’s to close


By Troy Graham
INQUIRER STAFF WRITER

Philadelphia gun-store owner James Colosimo plans to close his decades-old shop, which has been targeted recently with antiviolence protests and federal inquiries into its business practices.

Since protests this year, the Buruea of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives has filed a notice to revoke Colosimo's federal license to sell firearms, said Colosimo's attorney, Joe Canuso.

On Tuesday, the U.S. Attorney's Office accused the store of selling 10 guns to people employees "knew or had reason to believe" were illegal straw buyers.

Canuso said today that his client would not contest the effort to revoke his license. He said Colosimo was mulling whether to fight the criminal charge, which was filed against his corporation and carries maximum penalties of five years' probation and a $200,000 fine.

Colosimo waived his right to a grand-jury hearing, and the charge was filed in a criminal information, which often means a defendant plans to plead guilty.

"Mr. Colosimo just wants to get things resolved so he can move on with his life, so to speak," Canuso said.

By the time Colosimo makes his first appearance in court, he should have a date for closing his store, Canuso said.

"There will be something soon," he said.

Bryan Miller, from the interfaith, anti-gun-violence group Heeding God's Call, said data had shown for decades that Colosimo's, at 10th and Spring Garden Streets, had sold a "disproportionate number" of guns used in crimes.

"Every bad guy in Philly knew where to go to get a gun," he said. "Gun traffickers in the region will be mourning the closing of Colosimo's, but law-abiding citizens should rejoice."

Twelve members of Heeding God's Call were arrested in January after two days of protests inside and outside Colosimo's shop. All 12 were acquitted of a series of misdemeanors.

The protesters targeted the store after Colosimo refused to sign a voluntary "code of conduct" to cut down on gun sales to criminals. Colosimo argued that he already participated in nine of the 10 measures outlined in the code.

Colosimo acknowledged at the time that a significant number of guns sold in his store were used in crimes, but he attributed that to the high volume of his business.

Despite the criminal charge, Canuso said, Colosimo's never knowingly sold to a straw purchaser - a person who buys a gun for someone barred from owning a firearm, usually because of a criminal conviction.

"I can say that without fear of contradiction," he said.

Canuso said the criminal charge originated merely because of bad record-keeping.

"He's been in business for a long time and had a lot of inventory go through there, and he apparently had some discrepancies," he said.

The criminal information says Colosimo's sold 10 guns to three different straw buyers between 2004 and 2007. The court papers do not say how authorities determined that the guns were bought illegally, and the U.S. Attorney's Office declined to comment today.

Canuso said those guns had not been used in crimes.

"I have never heard anything like that," he said. "If they had a direct connection between a gun used in a crime and Colosimo's, you would have heard about it."

Colosimo's has been in business for "at least 40 years," Canuso said.

"His best customers have been mostly police officers," he said. "He's sold police guns and equipment for as long as I've been around."

Canuso said his client didn't harbor any ill will toward the protesters who singled out his store.

"While he didn't necessarily enjoy having them outside his shop . . . he understands what their reasoning is," he said. "He feels he didn't do anything illegal."
 
While it is sad to hear of an honest businessman closing his doors after 40 years I find it funny that Heeding God's Call think this is going to stop illegal guns.

As far as a Straw Purchase, how is the gun shop supposed to know?

When someone goes in to purchase a gun is the gun shop owner supposed to have clairvoyant abilities as to what that gun is going to be used for?

I could see if the owner was caught selling firearms to convicted felons, but this is ridiculous.
 
There's no way to stop straw purchases. And absent some form of blatantly indicative behavior, there's no way to know one is taking place.
 
If your employee helps his friend that can legally purchase firearms to knowingly pick out a firearm for a family member, he is knowingly helping a straw purchase.
If one employee helped one his friends buy a 10 rifles on a few occasions knowing he was going to sell those to make a profit, then that one incident would qualify for everything accused here.

If a couple employees make a couple of mistakes out of tens of thousands of sales over the years, they can then cite those, and cite several more alleged violations. In fact they can allege whatever they want, and make it sound so complicated nobody knows what to believe.

It appears he is going to plead guilty.
That could be because the allegations are true, or just one is true, or such a good deal was reached that he finds it easier to just accept defeat and receive a legal slap on the wrist rather than fight and lose and face many years in prison.
Prosecutors often do that. Admit to allegations, true or not, and get some probation and a fine and most of the charges dropped. Fight the allegations, true or not, and the prosecutor will charge the person with the maximum number of offenses, seek the maximum sentence, and if the defendant loses they will receive many years behind bars.
That is how they cut down on prosecution expenses by making a large number of those charged plead guilty. That is why most cases never go to trial, allowing them to prosecute many more people on a budget. Federal prosecutions are expensive, and if everyone fought they could only do a very limited number per year.
 
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Other than the "straw buyer" standing at the counter with the felon, saying "Hey I'm buying this for him because he isn't allowed to." How is the dealer supposed to know?
 
The urban left has again ensured it will be left at the mercy of criminals. That city has been a frothing cesspool for decades now, and will doubtless continue to be one in the future. You could literally offer me ten million dollars and I still wouldn't live there.
 
well it's kinda like this, there are some gross violations, but then you do get somebody who is there to buy a retirement gift for uncle Joe.....

On place I shop will be happy to help you choose the perfect pistol, and on the assigned day, they suggest that you bring them by to "see if ___blank___ came in" then your uncle Joe will have to fill out form 4473.
 
...to knowingly pick out a firearm for a family member...

I don't suppose you're referring to gifts though, right? I know it is illegal for my boy to save up his dimes & nickles, and have me take it in to buy his first plinker, but I can buy one and gift it without problem.
 
I don't suppose you're referring to gifts though, right? I know it is illegal for my boy to save up his dimes & nickles, and have me take it in to buy his first plinker, but I can buy one and gift it without problem.

Yeah, but if your boy gets a job, or mows some lawns etc and saves up his own money and you took him to the shop, the owner is a long time friend, and you proceeded to buy your son a firearm for hunting season with his hard earned money, it was a straw purchase.
If the seller knows this is what is happening, he contributed to the straw purchase.

The son could not legally purchase the firearm himself, and you purchased it for him to bypass that.


And that is just the correct technicality. A prosecutor could still "allege" a violation of a firearm purchased as a gift, and allege it was a straw purchase.
So even if you did buy him a gun as a gift, they could allege otherwise, and since the boy would have likely paid you in cash if it was a straw purchase, it is just your word against thiers.
Now that should mean you have the benefit of the doubt, you the alleged criminal having to be found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt", but those are just fluffy words jurors don't understand anymore.
If they believe the prosecutor, they could still decide based on what they think probably happened you are guilty of a straw purchase for buying him a gift.

Only 3 alleged incidents occurred according to the article. Totaling 10 firearms. The federal prosecutor can probably turn that into several dozen charges, or allow the owner to plead to 1 and seek no prison time, a fine, and loss of his FFL (and a felony record.)
 
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Oh I know.

I thought you were describing a gift-buy, where the employee helps select the gun, knowing it is to be a gift. In that case, the employee isn't knowingly aiding in a straw purchase as the gift-buy isn't a straw purchase. Right?

I hate the whole idea of straw purchase law. It's stupid.
 
I work right a round the corner and once a week you see all the protesters out front. You know the ones that live in the bad lands of north Philly that have the good kids that never did a bad thing. Yes it is sad very sad to see the shop close but the man was a crook with everything he sold.
 
"...the man was a crook with everything he sold" ?? That's a mighty powerful allegation pardner seein' as how this guy was a LEO supplier for many years. Do you have facts to back this up?
 
Glocking: Jim Colosimo was difficult and stubborn person to deal with, but he was far from being a crook. I wasn't especially fond of him either but he could get the guns, particularly the sought after S&W Magnums and his pricing was fair. Please don't call him a crook unless you can actually prove it. Surely you have heard of a word called "libel". Be careful of statements put in print. You are not as anonymous as you may think online.
 
claiming libel over a post in an internet forum is about as absurd as calling someone a crook without any kind of explanation, facts, or proof.
 
J-easy: Your law degree came from what university......? Where have you been living for the past two years? I do not wish to belittle or debate this issue any longer with you, but you are wrong sir; since lawsuits have been filed on the federal level down to ithe individual level over similar comments. No further postings from me, all I wanted to do was post a comment about an old time Philadelphia gunshop closing...period.
 
Glock, I will agree with that statement, but he had the guns that no one else could get. As I said previously he did get me my S&W 29 at list price.
 
Extremely OVERPRICED place. They had a Highpoint 9mm in there for $400. They preyed on customers that didn't have the savvy to shop around.
 
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