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Given that:
1. What gets posted on the web seems to last forever and...
2. Photos contain metadata which can be used to trace time date and location then...
3. How can we have and enjoy rifle photo threads without incurring undue risk in the future from government persecution?
 
Don't worry about your photos

Everything else is tracked also so why sweat the photos ? :D How was that show you watched by the way ? :what:
 
It will only be a problem if we don't vote the thieving (edited) out
 
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I agree posting various pictures and data on the internet can be a serious problem, since you can't put anything on the internet that isn't true.

Have you seen my T-rex with dual mounted 40mm Bofors? I'll see if I can get him settled down enough to take a pic. The NSA can data mine where the sun don't shine.
 
I have it on good authority that the generic foil doesnt work. you must use Reynolds. :evil:




PS you can remove your EXIF data before ever uploading pictures.
 
If you're worried about pictures it would stand to reason that you are worried about the government's ability to track you down on the basis of pictures posted to a gun forum. But, any reasonable person would assume that someone posting on a gun forum most likely already has guns. As such, do the pictures really matter? In other words, if someone feels that worried about the issue, they probably shouldn't be posting here in the first place.

Regardless, if you've ever bought a gun new, I'd wager a guess that you'll be much more likely to be tracked on the basis of the NICS check, and the form 4473.

A picture on a gun forum? Well, I guess you could not post them if you don't want to, but I don't really see the point. There's no telling if the pictures posted are of guns that you currently own, guns you may have previously sold, or even guns that you never owned. I have certainly posted pictures of guns before that didn't belong to me, and guns that I no longer own.
 
Gave him some leftover bar-b-q chicken, he calmed down nicely.
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I’ve thought about that a few times. But, I figure that between the NSA snooping, ATF’s non-congressional approved regulations and FBI background checks, they should already know all they need about me. Don’t worry, Be happy.
 
Or we can just have and enjoy them without worrying about the evil gummint coming after us.
 
But, I figure that between the NSA snooping, ATF’s non-congressional approved regulations and FBI background checks, they should already know all they need about me.
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Pretty much... You could be like me though..

Multiple handgun buyer, multiple semi-auto long gun in a border state buyer, on the 10year wait plan for a suppressor (seems like it) annnnnnd I travel back and forth to the Middle East monthly. Calls from Sat phones, dual sim phones, US phones and local. Posting on banned forums (From this side some gun forums are banned)..

Now who do you think they are watching more??? :cool: :cuss::cuss:



Take that!!!
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MistWolf said:
It will only be a problem if we don't vote the thieving bastards out
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Darn right! And after we vote THOSE thieving politicians out, we can vote our OWN thieving politicians in!

As to posting gun pictures, the threat of surveillance of my photos has never stopped me. I do cover up the SN or don't include it in the picture, but I don't worry about the picture being the source of the government's knowledge of my guns. The blanket surveillance being conducted by the NSA on all forms of communication has pretty much guaranteed that they already know what I have. And that's not counting the possibilities of utilizing 4473's and NICS checks to track purchases. I'm not justifying the tactics being used on American citizens in the slightest, but all things considered worrying about a picture seems silly in the grand scheme of things.

If they're going to track everything I do, they had at least better start giving me advice! :cuss: :D
 
With the power of the state behind them your IP, phone, cell phone, power usage, driving history, etc. can all be tracked, legally or illegally.


But I have warned of some cameras putting GPS coordinates of where the photo was taken in the EXIF data. This could give tweakers browsing the net locations of valuables they might want to steal.

Much more realistic threat than some grand .gov conspiracy that worries about me.

So turning off the GPS in you camera, and/or a scrub of the metadata before posting is IMHO wise.
 
dvdcrr said:
2. Photos contain metadata which can be used to trace time date and location then...
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You can control the amount of data that gets attached to your photos as well. Pretty easily configurable from most devices. Not that doing that alone will stop someone from tracking down your location from forum activity, but it helps.
 
Do you use phones, despite roaming and warrantless wiretaps? Do you drive, despite GPS tracking and plate reading systems? Do you own a cellphone, despite the capability for feds to turn it into a microphone even if you turn it off?

Remove your EXIF if you're worried. You don't have to be big government to pull EXIF data off an image. I can paste your photo into a free online EXIF viewer and get the same data. The other solution is to stop using the internet.
 
akv3g4n said:
You can control the amount of data that gets attached to your photos as well. Pretty easily configurable from most devices. Not that doing that alone will stop someone from tracking down your location from forum activity, but it helps.
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You can also view and edit the metadata yourself if you want before posting.

Mike
 
Don't be a member of any forum, don't use email or text or voice and mention "gun/ammo/rifle/AR/AK/...", don't purchase any guns through an FFL, don't have a carry permit, don't...

You worry wayyyy too much if you're worried about a pic on a website.
 
You worry wayyyy too much if you're worried about a pic on a website.
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I agree with you *except* if the meta data has the GPS coordinates of where the photo was taken -- why risk playing Geo-caching for crooks :(

Most cameras with the feature turn it on by default. I have to turn it off again after every time I change the battery on mine. I try to avoid using this camera for gun pics.
 
For ultimate privacy and safety, just cover the implanted microchip with tin foil and everything will be fine.

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How can we have and enjoy rifle photo threads without incurring undue risk in the future from government persecution?
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I could see one scenario where someone from New Jersey goes to one of the free states and rents out a machine gun at the range and has someone take pictures of him/her shooting it.

Then goes home, decides to play a simple joke and posts pictures of him/her shooting the machine on an NJ gun forum with the caption "Look at this neat machine I just bought" .

How much you want a bet that in a few days his house gets raided with the police with a warrant looking for a machine gun?
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How much you want a bet that in a few days his house gets raided with the police with a warrant looking for a machine gun?
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I want to bet a lot. Because I could retire off your assumption about what local governments have the resources to do or care about.

And as for this person's comment:

But I have warned of some cameras putting GPS coordinates of where the photo was taken in the EXIF data. This could give tweakers browsing the net locations of valuables they might want to steal.
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I feel like this person doesn't have a lot of experience with tweakers. They're not generally smart, tech-savvy people, or they wouldn't be tweakers. And even if they were, they've already stopped paying for internet access and sold their computer to buy meth. Because that's the low-hanging fruit. Tweakers aren't pulling GPS coordinates off someone's photos to decide whose house to rob.

This whole thread needs a lesson in Occam's Razor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam's_razor

Aaron
 
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