Pics of Tactical/Defensive Shotguns
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Chopdoktor
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Ten-rounders are usually what feeds it, and the barrel has now been chopped and the PolyChoke welded to make 18.5", but you get the idea.
LeonCarr
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That cut down A5 looks like the type that Bonnie and Clyde favored, expect I think they had Remington Model 11s. Clydes was a 12 and Bonnie's was a 20.
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Just my .02,
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essayons21
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Crappy pic...
Ace skeleton stock
Hogue pistol grip
Adapter I think is made by Falcon Industries (Ergo) pretty sure they are discontinued now.
3-rail forend, also Ergo, also discontinued
Brinks flashlight, got it for $15 bucks at target, has the same light output as a surefire 6p and has survived hundreds of round of buck and slug and a tour in Iraq.
Hahn Precision safety and top rail
XS big dot tritium front bead
Also is has a Burris mini red dot on it now.
Its been a many year evolution, which has changed as I have shot the living crap out of that gun and replaced parts as they have broken or proven unneeded. And I have broken quite a few parts, to include some internals.
+1 to shooting shells instead of pictures... but shooting shells at THR gets costly, replacing my monitor all those times. So I'll stick with pictures when I'm on the computer, and leave the live ammo for the range.
Gordon
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The picture of Louis Awerbuck is scary enough ! but here is what works best for me:
bushmaster1313
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Simple is good:
Mine are not currently up to what I want them to be, but that is mainly a funding thing. The following is pretty much my opinion, and I might be biased, but I think I'm right.
First, there's a difference between something that is "better than nothing", something that is decent for the job, and something that is specifically designed with HD in mind. What I currently own I think falls in the middle.
Size - you want something as small as can be, while still being legal. Most "tactical" shotguns have an 18.5" barrel length. This makes it easier to navigate through your home if you have to, and gives you more places where you can store it.
Capacity - you might as well get the tube flush with the barrel. This generally means 6-7x 2.75" shells in the tube (depending on how far they're crimped, I have some "2.75 inch" shells that look more like 3" ones), or you could get a box-fed. Extended tube came standard on my mossberg 930 SPX, I had to buy one for my Benelli Supernova.
Along these lines, a pump action is generally more affordable, but I think the advantage lies with semi-autos. Mossberg 930 SPX with ghost rings and a top rail, straight stock, and extended magazine tube was $640.
Stock - personally, I prefer the straight stock on a shotgun, especially with a tube magazine. Makes them fit places easier and I think it absorbs recoil better. You want a shorter LOP than you would with a sport gun, to shorten the overall length.
Accessories - side saddles are nice, but not really necessary if you have a decent capacity. I have one on my benelli because it is part of the top rail. A flashlight for target identification is a very good thing to have, it prevents you from shooting your kid when he sneaks in late at night, thinking he's a burglar. There are different mounting options for different shotguns, most use a barrel clamp. I recently purchased a sling, which makes it a lot easier to carry around if you have to.
The last thing, which I do not have yet for either of my shotguns, is a red dot sight. Yes, you can do just fine with others, but I think the faster target aquisition of a red dot can give you an advantage (the difference between "good for HD" and "designed for HD"). However, you want to stay away from cheap red dots, as I've had one (that claimed "rated for .50 cal") break after less than 10 shots.
First, there's a difference between something that is "better than nothing", something that is decent for the job, and something that is specifically designed with HD in mind. What I currently own I think falls in the middle.
Size - you want something as small as can be, while still being legal. Most "tactical" shotguns have an 18.5" barrel length. This makes it easier to navigate through your home if you have to, and gives you more places where you can store it.
Capacity - you might as well get the tube flush with the barrel. This generally means 6-7x 2.75" shells in the tube (depending on how far they're crimped, I have some "2.75 inch" shells that look more like 3" ones), or you could get a box-fed. Extended tube came standard on my mossberg 930 SPX, I had to buy one for my Benelli Supernova.
Along these lines, a pump action is generally more affordable, but I think the advantage lies with semi-autos. Mossberg 930 SPX with ghost rings and a top rail, straight stock, and extended magazine tube was $640.
Stock - personally, I prefer the straight stock on a shotgun, especially with a tube magazine. Makes them fit places easier and I think it absorbs recoil better. You want a shorter LOP than you would with a sport gun, to shorten the overall length.
Accessories - side saddles are nice, but not really necessary if you have a decent capacity. I have one on my benelli because it is part of the top rail. A flashlight for target identification is a very good thing to have, it prevents you from shooting your kid when he sneaks in late at night, thinking he's a burglar. There are different mounting options for different shotguns, most use a barrel clamp. I recently purchased a sling, which makes it a lot easier to carry around if you have to.
The last thing, which I do not have yet for either of my shotguns, is a red dot sight. Yes, you can do just fine with others, but I think the faster target aquisition of a red dot can give you an advantage (the difference between "good for HD" and "designed for HD"). However, you want to stay away from cheap red dots, as I've had one (that claimed "rated for .50 cal") break after less than 10 shots.
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Grousefeather
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I use a older Ithica 37, 20" barrel, no disconnect. Hold the trigger, pump and pray.
I use a older Ithica 37, 20" barrel, no disconnect. Hold the trigger, pump and pray.
Gordon
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Actually a Bauer Rabbit .410 as pictured by HK above was used by the toughest man I ever met when he slept in his pickup camper shell. You would NOT want him pushing that .410 barrel up your nose in a flash!
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MachIVshooter
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I have an 11-87 police with SGT ghost ring sights, but I like my $160 M11 better. It was a 30" full choke with a hideous recoil pad. 19" tube now, with a steel buttplate on the shortened stock. It's pretty brutal with slugs, but I enjoy it.
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Reminds me of an argument I got in where some guy was trying to say how his Benelli M4 Super 90 was better than my Remington 1100 for Home Defense. The guy was an idiot overall and I don't mind people owning such a shotgun. Just when you start saying it's better when the worse conditions it will see next to your bed is maybe not getting oiled when it should be.
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Jon Coppenbarger
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I use the same shotgun as another mentioned.
Ithica 37 police special in 12 ga. It is one I will not sale and if I need fast in the hall way just hold the trigger and pump it tell its empty.
Ithica 37 police special in 12 ga. It is one I will not sale and if I need fast in the hall way just hold the trigger and pump it tell its empty.
M4 Benelli 11707 with:
Carrier comp full length Ti tube
Mesa Urbino
GG&G oversize bolt release pad
Dave's metal oversize charging handle
Insight M6X
Surefire front end
Sidearmor rail and carrier
Geiselle hammer
Trijicon RMR 2 w/ADM mount
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Stevie-Ray
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Mossberg 930 SPX
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