Piettia went oo far this time!

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I' a big supporter and fan of the company , it's exact replica revovers also it's "Fantasy" creations such as short barrrls and , 44 caliber models.
But tis time I say they have gone TOO FAR!
A Navy framed 6 sot Cylinder/Barrel Peppert
Box???Ugly, totally absurd, and far away fromany sort of historical reality that it sickencs!
I OE
Wn several Piettia and far as that goes I'll always remain but this new deparhture has thrown me for a loop!
ZVP

have a look in the recent Cabelas Shooting Catalog.

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ZVP said:
I' a big supporter and fan of the company , it's exact replica revovers also it's "Fantasy" creations such as short barrrls and , 44 caliber models.
But tis time I say they have gone TOO FAR!
A Navy framed 6 sot Cylinder/Barrel Peppert
Box???Ugly, totally absurd, and far away fromany sort of historical reality that it sickencs!
I OE
Wn several Piettia and far as that goes I'll always remain but this new deparhture has thrown me for a loop!
ZVP

have a look in the recent Cabelas Shooting Catalog.

T
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the best way to fix that is don't buy one!! they'll get the message when sales of that item dosent sale! :)
 
What is OPs major malfunction?

The Pietta Pepperbox is a modernized, improved Pepperbox design. It is awesome on so many levels. Common party commonality with current Navy production is one reasons. These are for fun, and fun only. Get your head out of the past and grow up! These guns are for the common man and the common man cares NOTHING about historical accuracy. All he cares about is a bargain and if he heard the term "pepperbox" in an old Mark Twain story and he sees the term "pepperbox" on the tag of a Pietta gun on half off 50% lower price at Cabelas, he won't bat an eyelash and the design of that gun will become his history and through his history it will spread all over via the Internets and pretty soon all anybody pictures when that term is uttered is a Pietta Pepperbox which might as well be as who want to shoot those old guns when we can invent out own interpretation of history as a cheap abortion for half off at the local Cabelas??? Are you nuts???
 
Cooldill said:
What is OPs major malfunction?

The Pietta Pepperbox is a modernized, improved Pepperbox design. It is awesome on so many levels. Common party commonality with current Navy production is one reasons. These are for fun, and fun only. Get your head out of the past and grow up! These guns are for the common man and the common man cares NOTHING about historical accuracy. All he cares about is a bargain and if he heard the term "pepperbox" in an old Mark Twain story and he sees the term "pepperbox" on the tag of a Pietta gun on half off 50% lower price at Cabelas, he won't bat an eyelash and the design of that gun will become his history and through his history it will spread all over via the Internets and pretty soon all anybody pictures when that term is uttered is a Pietta Pepperbox which might as well be as who want to shoot those old guns when we can invent out own interpretation of history as a cheap abortion for half off at the local Cabelas??? Are you nuts???
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yep cooldill it dosent bother me on all fronts I was giving the OP a way to deal with his frustration lol but for me I own two 51' navy revolvers in 44c and like them very much infact I am browning one right now to see what it'll look like! :) but I do wanna try a 51' navy in the period correct 36c just to see what it's like to play with?
 
Not my cup of tea, but if it makes people happy...

If I'm not mistaken these are smoothbore, right? If so I could see these being cool loaded with shot for snakes if that's your thing. I usually just use a stick if it's venomous (rattlesnake sure tastes good), and don't bother with anything nonvenomous unless I fancy it as a pet.

I've thought a Walker might be cool with an additional barrel bored smooth, but I don't know how effective it would be on small game.
 
They are not a replica company exclusively, they are a manufacturer with specific market, and tooling, and they're using it any way they can. Saying its a bad replica is like saying the remington ACR is a bad percussion replica, or a Colt AR. Still, from straight taste... yea pretty ugly, but I bet its make with overruns that would wait on a shelf, and they have almost no engineering in it.... and someone will buy it.
 
well for snakes and yes its smooth bore so shot would be handy but since I own two 51' navys could I just somehow load shot in it for snakes for when i'm out fishing??
 
I'm not that put off by them at all. I had even ordered one from Cabelas when they were $199 a few months ago, but they went on backorder and I cancelled. They've raised the price by $20 now. I think it would look super cool with a thunderer/birdshead grip like the one below. I was thinking of using it with caps and wax bullets as a gallery gun, and stoking it up with bp and a paperwad for banging on 4th of July.


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midland man said:
well for snakes and yes its smooth bore so shot would be handy but since I own two 51' navys could I just somehow load shot in it for snakes for when i'm out fishing??
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You could load your regular navies with birdshot, I tried it once, and got a really wide spread at a couple yards. 5 yards or less it'll do okay.
 
Well me I'm into historic accuracy when it comes to owning replica guns. That said it doesn't bother me so much all the non historic guns Pietta makes, it's the flat out lying deceit that Cabelas does with the advertising of some of the products that is flat out wrong.

I've even left feedback on that issue and contacted them. The will not post the feedback explaining that and will not respond when contacting them on the issue.

An example is the brass framed Remington. Their description says "Due to lack of raw materials the south was forced to reproduce the Remington with a brass frame" That is a flat out lie! Never happened!
 
I hate to say it but cabelas is after money they care less about period correctness! and now uberti is changing over to this new retractable firing pin which was never made back then!!
 
Cowhide Cliff said:
Well me I'm into historic accuracy when it comes to owning replica guns. That said it doesn't bother me so much all the non historic guns Pietta makes, it's the flat out lying deceit that Cabela's does with the advertising of some of the products that is flat out wrong.
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midland man said:
I hate to say it but Cabela's is after money they care less about period correctness!
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I think all of us have to recognize that Cabela's is being bought out by Bass Pro Shops. We may not like it, but I think BPS is running the Cabela's show from now on, especially insofar as advertising is concerned, even if Cabela's still has somewhat their own entity within the new corporation. We'll see.

Take advantage of any Cabela's sales because I think it won't last long, if at all. I think they are clearing out their inventory as BPS does not offer squat insofar as BP firearms. They are into spendy boats, fishing equipment, and eye candy.

Too bad for our tried and true Cabela's. I have shopped for numerous things at Cabela's since I was a teenager in Omaha in the late 60's, and that was when the only store was in Sidney, NE. Thanks, Dick and family!

Jim
 
Piettia went oo far this time!

I' a big supporter and fan of the company , it's exact replica revovers also it's "Fantasy" creations such as short barrrls and , 44 caliber models.
But tis time I say they have gone TOO FAR!
A Navy framed 6 sot Cylinder/Barrel Peppert
Box???Ugly, totally absurd, and <so> far away fromany sort of historical reality that it sickencs!
I OE
Wn several Piettia <products> and far as that goes I'll always remain <a fan> but this new deparhture has thrown me for a loop!
ZVP

have a look in the recent Cabelas Shooting Catalog.

T
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What is this "Piettia" company, of which you are a big supporter and fan? :D
 
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I am hoping they stay at the 219.99 til I get my taxes back. My wife wants one and I think anything to get my wife, who dislikes firearms, into bp is great. I only have an 1858 pietta brasser but I like it, its too much for her small hands
 
midland man said:
so is this true that cabelas is shutting down?
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From what I can discern, BPS is allowing Cabela's to operate under their own name in existing stores because I think they recognize that the Cabela's name has huge recognition. I think the main reason for BPS to acquire Cabela's has a lot to do with Cabela's credit/gift card system, et al, and more. From what I have read (and I do not have any links at this time) Cabela's system is a moneymaker. It is all corporate bean counters doing this transition.

If anyone can correct me, go for it. I'm all eyes/ears.

Jim
 
Hobbja said:
I am hoping they stay at the 219.99 til I get my taxes back. My wife wants one and I think anything to get my wife, who dislikes firearms, into bp is great. I only have an 1858 pietta brasser but I like it, its too much for her small hands
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Hobbja, I don't think you have much to worry about. The Cabela's price for that has stayed the same for a long time, with no "sale" prices.

I think it is great that it might get your wife into C&B, but it still has the 1851 Navy size frame and grips, plus the overly large cylinder. You might do better with a replica 1849 Colt Pocket Pistol in .31 caliber with her small hands. I have an ASM Replica Arms 1848 Pocket Pistol .31, and as I have long fingers it just gets lost in my hands, and I like Navies much better. Pietta does not produce a 1849 Pocket, but Uberti does. In fact, the Uberti Pocket Police and Pocket Navy in .36 might be a better choice for small hands. You can load it with small charges of BP so that recoil is not a factor and still shooting a .36 ball with a nice "bang".

The Pietta Pocket Navy uses an 1851 Navy frame, so it is larger than the Ubertis and is not a "Pocket" at all, just a short barreled 1851 Navy.

Sincerely, good luck to you insofar as getting someone else into the BP fraternity. Start small, slow, and light and it will probably work!

Jim
 
The Pietta Pepperbox was $199.99 at Cabela's back in November.
When you are ready to buy, start by picking up $200 worth of discount gift cards. It is usually pretty easy to find them 15% t0 20% off. That could save you $40 right there.
 
Malachi Leviticus Blue said:
When asking yourself why did Pietta come up with this pepperbox, remember the European market where "Real" guns are like unicorns to most folks, and the're not all looking for authentic reproductions of American antiques.
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I agree that the Europeans have to "resort" to BP firearms because of draconian laws across the pond concerning metallic cartridge arms, but I believe you are wrong to think that there is not a market there for repros or the real thing.

I was turned on to a French site courtesy of our fellow member, Ringo. I think we all can get an idea of what those folks go through to acquire some of their BP guns:

http://repliquesoldwest.superforum.fr/forum

Some of the members speak and write very good "American" English, but most of the posts are in French, as is the entire site. I use the translator tool on the Google Toolbar and I get a fair translation using that, but it is not at all verbatim (the translations for barrel, cylinder, and nipple are very different). I learn something new every day!

Ringo is my language guardian angel there and, as I post in English there, he will translate my posts into French. Quite a courtesy!

The French BP afficienados have a bit of a different take on replica "American" pistols, and many of them own original guns, and they are not inexpensive. They also watch GB and other sites, are willing to bid, and have the money, but it is such a convoluted mess in order to get even a BP C&B revolver (perfectly legal to own in France for anyone at least 18 years old) to them as no US seller wants to ship to an international address.

Ringo had found a pistol on GB (I believe) that he wanted; I found a shipper in NC who would do it and forwarded the link to him, but he found it would have cost him well over $1K in fees, in addition to the purchase price of the pistol, and other paperwork SNAFU's that put the exercise DOA.

If you take an interest and register there, go to "Le Bar" and introduce yourself as a friend of Ringo (he is a mod). I'll bet you a shot of Jack Daniel's that you will be gladly taken in. They seem to like Americans interested in their situation/predicament/problem.

Just my $.02 worth.

Jim
 
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