Pistol for pest elimination and general fun

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I'm looking for something that I can use to get rid of small animals around garden, etc. Squirell, chipmunks, mice. I also want handgun to plink, I have 9mm/45/38 guns, but no rimfire.

I'm thinking Ruger MKIII 10118. My 2 main concerns is how quiet it can be and how good this gun accuracy-wise?

1. There is some type of rimfire ammo that should be quiter than airgun, correct?

2. Can I install scope on this gun? I need to be able to shoot squirell out to 50 yards. I will practice with open sights first, of course to see what I can do..

3. How good is this gun out of the box? I like nice triggers and nice guns. Anything need/can be done to get action better?

And, last question. Anybody knows whats different in model 10160? If it's just a grips- I don't care about those..
 
The quieter rimfire ammo probably won't cycle the pistol.
Although it could still be used as a single shot and hand cycled.
You might want a revolver instead, though, if you want a repeater for that type of ammo.
 
Yep. I realize this is what might happen. Hand cycling will be OK for this specific purpose as I don't plan on making multiple shots, not repeatedly anyway..

If I take it on hunt/range I will have regular ammo, so it's not an issue.

What revolver would you suggest in rimfire? I'm looking to get just one and want best so I don't get an itch to buy something else later :)
 
22 long (not long rifle) and 22 short are both very quiet.
22 longs feed fine in anything chambered for 22lr, just have to cycle it by hand.

A single six would be my recommendation if you want to shoot the ultra quiet .22 shorts and bulk plinking ammo.
 
Dont be fooled by what these guys are telling you. The CCI Quiet, and CB type ammo from a pistol length barrel is still LOUD. If shot from a rifle, it is considerably quieter. The only way to make a 22 pistol quiet, is with a suppressor. Trust me. I have tried it all.

Shot placement is critical for clean kills on small game. This stuff doesnt have much power. 50 yards on a squirrel, with low power ammo, from a pistol...? good luck.
 
What pistol can I install suppressor on? I can get it here in MO, just takes some time. Mine as well try it for the rimfire pistol :)

But I guess I need a pistol with threaded barrel. Any 22's like that?

Again, how loud is loud? I had PCP air rifle before and it was powerful. I heard that 22lr can be quiter. That air rifle did sound like a staple gun, no big deal.
 
I agree.
Nothing, including Aguila CB Cap is what I would call quiet in a pistol.

Even louder still in a revolver because of the barrel / cylinder gap.

Your best bet is either a good spring cocker air rifle, or a full length rifle with CB Caps.

rc
 
Yeah. I didn't plan to go that way, but seems like another CZ rifle will be the key here :) I LOVE my 527 in 7.62 and good rimfire will compliment it..

Springers need lot's of practice and at the end they are not as universal. I had very nice PCP and it was pretty much 1 shot one kill but it was really heavy, no way it can be used for hunting..
 
I use a .177 springer. Not as quiet as I'd like but it does the job out to 35 yds. It's a wooded area but there are neighbors so you have the watch the background. On occasion I have used a .223 to dispatch pests if I can shoot safely.
 
Dont be fooled by what these guys are telling you. The CCI Quiet, and CB type ammo from a pistol length barrel is still LOUD. If shot from a rifle, it is considerably quieter. The only way to make a 22 pistol quiet, is with a suppressor. Trust me. I have tried it all.
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I guess it depends on what you call quiet, when my son shoots the 22 longs outside I can hear them in the house, if I'm asleep he can (and has) shot them 20 ft from my bedroom window without waking me.

I'd say, out of a pistol the 22 longs are about as loud as a firecracker, the 22 shorts are less than that.
 
If any of your critters are the slithery variety, I'd suggest a revolver. Not only does snake shot not cycle my Ruger Mk II, almost every round stovepipes.
 
CBs are great in a rifle, still pretty noisy in a 10" Contender :rolleyes:

29 gr bullet at 700 FPS.

Shorts break 1000.........way louder. My ears aint the best but I sure can tell the difference.

CB's in a rifle..........for the win. Have shot big coons, chucks and other that invaded my yard, got under my shed. 25 yards from back door to shed........Rem 541T HB or Anschutz 1403...........worked 'em over real good.

As always, head shots.

BTW, IIRC a Rem 572 will hold maybe 25 of the short CB's.
 
1. There is some type of rimfire ammo that should be quiter than airgun, correct?
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The only thing I have shot out of a pistol that isn't louder than an airgun is a Colibri. Even the Super Colibri's are disappointingly loud out of a 5" pistol. CB's are "real gun loud" and require ear protection, IMO. Louder than hyper velocity ammo out of a 21" rifle - from the shooter's perspective, anyhow.

As for the Colibri, this ammo is terribly dirty and inaccurate in my guns, about 5-10 semi-accurate rounds before the gun needs to be cleaned. And they pack about as much punch as a CO2 air pistol. 20 grain bullet at 375 fps... vs 14 grain pellets at 430 fps. The air pistol is louder, but it is also a heck of a lot more legal in more situations. And it is far more lethal once you figure in accuracy.

+1, a 22 pistol can't be quiet like a rifle, practically speaking. By the time you make it quiet, it is just a toy. A toy with all the legal issues of any other firearm.

The CB shorts are about as loud as an airgun when fired out of a 21+" rifle. They are accurate and about twice as powerful as an average air rifle. Super Colibris are near firing pin quiet in a rifle and hit with about the same energy as an average air rifle. Accuracy not so good at long range. So quiet 22LR ammo does have some advantages in a rifle.

I'd say, out of a pistol the 22 [CB]longs are about as loud as a firecracker, the 22[cb] shorts are less than that.
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I don't really doubt that, but I also wouldn't make a habit of lighting off firecrackers at arm's length without ears, nor anywhere neighbors might complain. You might call that airgun loud if you are shooting a PCP without a shroud.
 
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What pistol can I install suppressor on? I can get it here in MO, just takes some time. Mine as well try it for the rimfire pistol :)

But I guess I need a pistol with threaded barrel. Any 22's like that?

Again, how loud is loud? I had PCP air rifle before and it was powerful. I heard that 22lr can be quiter. That air rifle did sound like a staple gun, no big deal.
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There's a lot of discussion about ammo in this thread, but very little about suppressors. There are several .22 pistols that are manufactured with threaded barrels. You might have to do some digging, but I know that Sig makes the .22 mosquito, Walther makes a threaded barrel .22, Browning Buckmark probably makes a threaded barrel .22 and I know Ruger makes a threaded barrel .22 in the 22/45 variety 'cause that's what I've got. I'm currently waiting on my Tactical Solutions Axiom suppressor to clear the ATF and once I get to possess it legally, I'll look for the ammo that it likes best. Out of a 4.4" barrel, I'm fairly sure that most factory ammo will be subsonic anyway, so it should be a very quiet setup.
 
Get an old single shot .22 rifle. Shorten the barrel to 16.5 inches, and stock to 27 inches.

Add a scope if you want. Fun, cheap, and very effective.

Deaf
 
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2. Can I install scope on this gun? I need to be able to shoot squirell out to 50 yards. I will practice with open sights first, of course to see what I can do..

3. I like nice triggers and nice guns. Anything need/can be done to get action better?
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Squirrel at 50 yards? Maybe you'd like to think about the re-released Ruger Charger. It has a threaded barrel for possible suppression, is ready for optics mounting, and includes a bipod that can mount to the front sling swivel.

http://www.ruger.com/products/22Charger/specSheets/4917.html
http://www.ruger.com/products/22Charger/models.html

Ruger even has a drop in trigger kit to improve on the original. http://shopruger.com/Ruger-BX-Trigger/productinfo/90462/

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Charger.htm
 
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Yeah. I didn't plan to go that way, but seems like another CZ rifle will be the key here :) I LOVE my 527 in 7.62 and good rimfire will compliment it..

Springers need lot's of practice and at the end they are not as universal. I had very nice PCP and it was pretty much 1 shot one kill but it was really heavy, no way it can be used for hunting..
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I'm not even going to try my Springer on a squirrel at 50 yards. There is no way, no how I'm going to hit something that small consistently with it. 25 yards, sure.

Since you mention CZs, my CZ452 Trainer with 24"+ barrel is very quiet using CCI Quiet ammo. I mean air rifle quiet. However with that ammo, the gun is really a 25 yard gun for small targets.
 
For what you want out of a .22, and what its going to cost to get there, you are better off looking at air pellet guns.
 
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What revolver would you suggest in rimfire? I'm looking to get just one and want best so I don't get an itch to buy something else later :)
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I have a Ruger Single Six with 9.5" barrel. The bonus on the dual cylinder models is it comes with a .22 Magnum cylinder (and a .22 LR cylinder) which you might be interested in if you already have another gun in .22 WMR.

The Single Six's with 6" barrels and longer will actually see real velocity increases with .22 WMR over .22 LR. Something like the Single Six Hunter with Ruger scope mounting might be interesting.

http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSixHunter/models.html

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-Hunters.htm

My particular Single Six needed a trigger job and the cylinder chambers polished to get it where I wanted it, but it is a fun and accurate shooter. I've used the open sights, a red dot, a 4x scope, and currently a 2x scope. With open sights or a red dot, it is a good stand up and shoot gun. With a scope, I need a rest to shoot it well.
 
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I use .22 short in a single shot bolt action rifle for pest control and most of the time my wife doesn't even hear it. Those same shorts in my various pistols are very loud. The rifle will be easier to shoot accurately anyway.
 
i can hit a 4'' target at 50 yards using a ruger 22/45 with a burris fast fire red dot. you don't need a scope for 50 yards unless you have an eye problem.
 

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I use suppressors on different pistols, SBR's and rifles.

The Ruger is a sold choice if you get one with a threaded barrel. The little Walther is just as quiet but not as accurate. Both are not too bad even with "regular" ammo. The Ruger will shoot 10 rounds into 3.5" at 100 yds with a 1.5x Leupold.

One I keep handy is an old pump action .22 loaded with CB caps. Quite, fast follow up shots and holds 22 rounds and cheap.
 
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