Please help identifying this

[Racinbob]

A friend down in Florida (I'm in Indiana) sent me these pictures and asked for my help identifying and estimating what it was worth. I have asked her if there's any identification markings on it and apparently not. Any ideas folks?

 

[Flintshooter]

A friend down in Florida (I'm in Indiana) sent me these pictures and asked for my help identifying and estimating what it was worth. I have asked her if there's any identification markings on it and apparently not. Any ideas folks?

Typical late period Ohio/Indiana rifle. Until I saw the closeup of the lock area I thought it was a recent build because of the finish on the wood.
If everything works and the bore is decent $500 to $800 depending on location and market

 

[Racinbob]

Thank you. Does it look to you that there's something missing under the forearm? Check the last picture.

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

What it is? Answer - It sure is purdy.
I'm just looking at the images on my phone, but the wood looks beautiful to me and could be worth quite a bit all by itself.

 

[Ephraim Kibbey]

Does it look to you that there's something missing under the forearm?

Note the brass fixture attached to the bottom of the forearm of this rifle in the 9th picture down in the series:
https://www.aaawt.com/html/firearms/f918.html

 

[desidog]

Thank you. Does it look to you that there's something missing under the forearm? Check the last picture.

Well, the ramrod is missing.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

I'm thinking maybe Dimick or H.E. Leman, the missing piece may have been a wear plate which was installed to cover a goof when the ramrod hole was drilled.

 

[StrawHat]

When I brought up the photos my thought was (and continues to be) in the Ohio style.

Is there a name engraved or stamped on a barrel flat?

Kevin

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

You might also look real close at the lock plate, it may be a Goulcher lock, the name might still be there. Could help narrow down when it was made.

 

[Racinbob]

Thanks folks. I'm sending her the link to this thread to see what she thinks. That APM Dermit sure looks like it just with more inlays.

 

[4v50 Gary]

It has the characteristics of an 1850-60s sporting rifle. Without going through my library, I can't tell you where it was made. However, it doesn't have the characteristics of a Southern made rifle.

Did someone polish the brass? It looks too new.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Agreed, I don't believe it's a southern boy either, patch box reminds me of a plains type if and when one was put on. That brass plate under the forearm could have been put there as a wear plate to rest the rifle on the pommel of a saddle. Hawken boys addressed that by making the stock thicker in that same area.