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Please help me select a .22 with light trigger pull

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chuft

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Hello,

I am new here so hopefully I am not asking something that has been asked 1,000 times before. I have read a lot of the previous messages but I did not come across this exact question.

I am a new shooter and got my first guns this summer - a Glock 22 (.40) and an AR-15. I have been having a lot of fun shooting them at the range. I have tried some other guns, but have found I like guns with low recoil (thus the AR-15 over an AK47) and light trigger pulls (like the Glock, compared to say a revolver). I also prefer lighter guns. I have carpal tunnel syndrome, with its negative effects on upper body strength, and for this reason, I really appreciate a lighter gun with a light trigger pull weight. I am pretty accurate with the Glock at 15 yards but need to practice firing more rapidly. I would like to do this with a smaller caliber and cheaper ammo.

Now I am looking to get a .22LR pistol for rapid-fire practice and for guests and girlfriends to use at the range. I am looking for one with a light (around 5 pounds or less) trigger pull, and for the gun itself to not weight very much either. Accuracy is a plus as well since it is frustrating for new shooters (guests) to not be able to hit the broad side of a barn.

I am thinking of a Ruger Mark II with a 6" barrel (regular barrel - the bull barrels seem kind of heavy), but I don't know what the trigger pull is like on this gun.

I was wondering if anyone had any other options to recommend. I would like to get a revolver if I could find one with a fairly long barrel (for easier aiming), but I get the impression that double action revolvers tend to have heavy trigger pulls, and a single action would just be too hard for me to use for rapid-fire practicing. Is there such a thing as a gun that, say, looks like a Ruger Single Six but is actually double action, with a fairly light trigger pull? Or is there no such beast? I don't understand why the Ruger double action revolvers all seem to have such short barrels compared to their single action revolvers.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I am willing to consider other semiautos too, although I kind of like the Luger-like appearance of the Ruger. Thanks.
 
Well the Ruger Mark II, 22/45 or Browing Buckmark are not that bad out of the box. The Rugers have a lot of aftermarket parts that will really make the trigger nice.

The Smith 41 has a pretty darn nice trigger out of the box.

A nice double action revolver might work too as you can practice your heavy trigger pull with the double action or cock the hammer back for a super sweet light single action pull.

Chris
 
no, i'm not going to help you.
This is what you're going to do.
Hang around the range as much as you can.
Beg and borrow every .22 you can. Lie and cheat to get your hands on as many as you can. Don't be shy about it.
Then after you've picked one, go and buy it. Then shoot the crap out of it. It's a.22 it won't ever break.
It's going to spend a lot more time in your hands than your friends.
So find one you like.
What I like you may hate.

AFS
 
Hi Standard

If you don't mind spending some coin. Stay away from the Houston made models, quality is hit or miss. Trigger is adjustable to slight breeze weight.

Me, I gots a Mitchell Hi Standard clone with a trigger set at touch and go bang. Great at the range, but you wouldn't want to carry it in the field.
 
You are describing a Sig Trailside 4" to a tee. Lighter than the Ruger with a much lighter trigger. Very good accuracy. Higher priced though, around $400.

Steve
 
...a light (around 5 pounds or less) trigger pull...

A light trigger pull is under two pounds. A very light pull is under half a pound.

My match pistol triggers hold at two pounds to comply with N.R.A. bullseye requirements. You haven't lived until you've pulled triggers that break at less than two ounces.
 
I bought a used Ruger Mark II slab side target model which had a decent trigger but after a while I wanted better. I ordered a Volquartsen trigger kit from Brownells which set me back about $90 or so. Installation took an hour and was pretty straightforward if you're somewhat mechanically inclined as are many who frequent here. The trigger is now outstanding! I don't have any way to measure it but it is crisp and light with minimal take-up or overtravel (which is adjustable). With the Hogue wraparound grips and new Millett sights I added, it is a perfect .22. The kit includes a new wider trigger as well as new sear and hammer and all new springs as well as a few other parts in the trigger group. I highly recommend this gun and upgrade.

With eight 10-round mags and a bulk pack of ammo, it's like eating popcorn, you just don't want to stop.
 
I have a Browning Buckmark 5.5 Target and have never felt the need to improve the trigger, but I've mostly used it for pin shooting. I feel it was vastly superior to the stock Ruger triggers and noticably better than the standard Buckmark triggers.

I'm not to obsessed with specific weights. The results are what matters. If I can shoot a gun with a horrible trigger better than another gun with a great trigger, guess which one I'd prefer ;) The trigger is a means to an end, don't get too caught up in it unless all the other performance factors are there too.
 
My brother has a Rohm model 66 or something like that... Forget the name, it looks like a respectable firearm, blued finish is good, decent wood grips, no fugly machining... single action only .22lr, looks a lot like an SAA actually.

It surprised me mightily. Trigger pull is on the order of 6oz or so. Breathe on the trigger and the hammer falls...

Not saying get a Rohm (ugh), I'm saying, try them all and pick one, you may get a surprise :)
 
I agree with stevesmith7 a SIG Trailside has an adjustable trigger which I haven't had to adjust. Just fine out of the box, and highly accurate. Its a keeper and I also shoot Colt 22 and Ruger target model.
 
Hey chuft I would go to a range that has rentals. My local one has everyone of the pistols that have been recommended. You won't go wrong with any of them, but if you can shoot each you will find the one that is right for you. This pistol will last you a lifetime, so take alittle time and look around. My local range only ask that you buy the ammo from them( 22lr...cheap) no charge for the use of the pistols. I chose the ruger mark II
 
Installed the VQ trigger and a baby's breath will set it off. Very smooth and light.

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Well, please try to get a chance to shoot various guns before you settle on one, but as far as semi-auto's, the Ruger Mark II , Sig Trailside , and Browning Buckmark are generally good choices, they are all mechanically sound and fairly accurate.

I only personally have experience with the Ruger Mk.II and Browning Buckmark. I ended up buying a Buckmark because it feels really solid and well made, with a great trigger. In the end it comes down to personal preference - what feels best to you and what you shoot best with.

On revolvers - I don't know a whole lot. I was recently given a Smith & Wesson model 17 - it's the only experience I have with .22 revolvers.

I hope I've helped you find what you're looking for,

-Nick
 
I heartily endorse the Browning Buck Mark Plus. Mine is gratifyingly accurate and had a sweet, crisp, consistent trigger out of the box. A bargain at $350. Thing just runs and runs with little cleaning.

Can't say anything bad about the Ruger or SIG Trailside, as I have no experience with them. But if I want another .22 auto, I'll probably just pick up a second Buck Mark (maybe a Bullseye model, put a red dot on it) and call it good.

On .22 revolvers: haven't much advice. But I handled an old 6" S&W K-22 at the gun store recently -- a well-loved piece with lot of bluing wear -- and was sorely tempted. Great trigger in both DA and SA. They rarely make 'em like that anymore. Tight lockup as well.
 
rbert0005,
The first reply recommended a S&W 41.
I second that recommendation.
Actually, with your recommendation seconding it, I'll third it. :D
 
Thanks to everyone. The range situation around here is pretty lame, there is one public range with no rentals and that's it. Haven't seen a whole lot of people shooting .22 pistols there either. Mostly self-defense practice by people with .357's and larger, hunters with their .308's on the rifle side, and the occasional AR-15 owner like me blasting away. :)

Not a large selection of guns for sale around here either. I found a Browning Buckmark for $219 new at a local store and decided to get that. Been too cold out for me to try it out yet (no there are no indoor ranges here) but the trigger pull seems light enough for me and it seems to get rave reviews from everyone.

The guy at the store said it is a lot easier to clean than a Ruger Mark II, I wonder if that's true. The Ruger was more expensive so he had no incentive to lie.
 
what about an Advantage Arms conversion for your glock? same trigger feel, grip angle, and everything else that you have now. I think they are less than $300, plus no transfer fees. for the price of a box or two of .40 you could shoot for most of the day. see this thread.
Tim

edited to correct company name.
 
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The thing that keeps me from shooting the Glock all day is not the trigger pull, it's the recoil. For some reason it really slams me on my second thumb joint and leaves a red welt there, even when I am wearing a shooting glove. According to my police friends there is nothing wrong with my grip, nobody seems to know why it is hitting me there. It stays red for weeks afterwards. I just hope it is not causing any long term damage to the joint.
 
Oops, now I see you were talking about converting the Glock to a .22, not lightening its trigger pull. Interesting idea.
 
Ruger a Good Choice

My Company has sold thousands of pistol grips to Bullseye competitors and the feedback I have received is that the American made Ruger is a really good pistol for the price with the understanding that it needs a good trigger job.
Check out the Bullseye list where many of the .22 competitors belong and ask as to whom should do the kind of trigger job you desire.

Fitz Pistol Grips
Retired and Loving It
 
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