Police kill arson suspect in San Bernardino

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http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=5724869

San Bernardino police say the man was shot Tuesday night following a chase that ended when the unidentified Arizona man backed his car into a cruiser and an officer opened fire.

Police say the chase started after campus security officers at California State University, San Bernardino, found the man inside a car in a brushy area near campus. The officers were concerned and wanted to make sure he wasn't trying to start a fire. When they approached, the man drove off.
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I wonder if it would be legal to shoot an arsonist?

Even if he wasn't useing his vehicle as a weapon?
 
I know I'll probably offend LE on this site, but cops are often dirty, bloodlust, or just plain scared ****less, and use their weapons without thought. After all most LE are trained to protect themselves at all cost.

I'm sure the person who fired the kill shot is mentally upset right now. Most cops who have a first kill become frustrated, and upset.
 
I know I'll probably offend LE on this site, but cops are often dirty, bloodlust, or just plain scared ****less, and use their weapons without thought.
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You a cop? If not, how do you "know" this. I`m not a police officer but I do have respect for them. I think that you should have more respect for them also. That statement sounds like something that a criminal would say anyway. Such statements do not belong on the high road or anywhere else.

Most cops who have a first kill become frustrated, and upset.
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Who said anything about a first kill and again how do you "know" this?
 
I know I'll probably offend LE on this site, but cops are often dirty, bloodlust, or just plain scared ****less, and use their weapons without thought. After all most LE are trained to protect themselves at all cost.
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Yup yup, sure sure... okaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayy then.

Hey, want a ride along?

PS: Not going to look up CA law, but yeah... Arson is a shooting here in Texas.
 
If someone was setting fire to my property I know what would happen. If the cops saw someone setting fire to property I hope they would do the same thing.
 
That statement sounds like something that a criminal would say anyway
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No it doesn't, I would never say that

I sounds more like an uneducated comment or a troll looking for attention

Arson is listed as one of the forcible felonies where deadly force is justified in Florida
 
It's legal in Nebraska, and rightfully so. A bystander doesn't know how many people are in a building about to be burned down, nor the value (monetary or otherwise) of the contents inside. Additionally, in urban areas, entire blocks can be leveled by a fired (attached buildings). And in rural areas, the fire can spread in drought conditions very quickly.

http://uniweb.legislature.ne.gov/LegalDocs/view.php?page=s2814011000
(6) The use of deadly force is not justifiable under this section unless the actor believes that:

(a) The person against whom the force is used is attempting to dispossess him of his dwelling otherwise than under a claim of right to its possession; or

(b) The person against whom the force is used is attempting to commit or consummate arson, burglary, robbery or other felonious theft or property destruction and either:

(i) Has employed or threatened deadly force against or in the presence of the actor; or

(ii) The use of force other than deadly force to prevent the commission or the consummation of the crime would expose the actor or another in his presence to substantial danger of serious bodily harm.
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Police say the chase started after campus security officers at California State University, San Bernardino, found the man inside a car in a brushy area near campus. The officers were concerned and wanted to make sure he wasn't trying to start a fire. When they approached, the man drove off.
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He got scared and tried to drive off, hitting a police car in the process.
He is NOT AN ARSONIST. He didn't start a fire.
 
In MN my understanding is that it IS legal to shoot a arsonist IF he is setting fire to a residence.
Then again it sounds like they did NOT shoot him for being a arsonest. They shot him for being a threat to the Officers.
Just think of the BILLIONS of $$$ in damage each fire is doing... The tens of THOUSANDS of people having to evacuate. and the thousands of Fire/Police personal as well as general public in danger because of fire....
 
inkhead said:
I know I'll probably offend LE on this site, but cops are often dirty, bloodlust, or just plain scared ****less, and use their weapons without thought. After all most LE are trained to protect themselves at all cost.

I'm sure the person who fired the kill shot is mentally upset right now. Most cops who have a first kill become frustrated, and upset.
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First and Foremost; I have to state, "that as a US Marine who has see some of the worst fighting in Iraq, who has shrapenal in 6 areas of his body and from a man who's killed and bagged his own... I have nothing but respect for 99.99% of Law Enforcement Officers, who put thier lives on the line 24/7 from the day they go to the academy till they day they die from natural causes. They keep the wolfs away from my back door, so I can leave and keep the wolfs away from our soil."

Actually it's not the kills you make that will tear you apart, it is the kills you should have made sooner that will tear you apart.

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Hmm, 9mm vs .45acp vs. 2000lb Buick.

I wonder which is more deadly...
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everyone knows the .45acp is... unless Ted Kennedy is driveing the Buick

After watching a little more news... watching San Diego County being torched ... and constantly reviewing my List of what we're takeing "IF" we have to evacuate... I think shooting an Arsonist in the act would fly in court, even out here in the Peoples Republic of Communist California.
 
In AZ it is legal to use deadly force to prevent Arson of an Occupied Structure...


You better be sure there's people in there..

c2k
 
Extremely short story. No real facts other than the cops shot someone they thought could be starting a fire after the fled and then rammed his car into the cop's car. I would be interested in the details of the police report. Like whether there was a readily availiable accellerant in the vehicle (like a molotov cocktail or even a handy half gallon of gas). There is more to this story. Wait for it....
 
Wow, where did inkhead go ?

details of the police report. Like whether there was a readily availiable accellerant in the vehicle (like a molotov cocktail or even a handy half gallon of gas). There is more to this story. Wait for it....
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Regardless of "if" he was going to start a fire, he rammed a police car in his escape attempt. Grounds for shooting, I would think anywhere. So the if`s and but`s are out the window,...Next point....
 
They didn't shoot him for being an arsonist, they shot him because he was assaulting an officer with a deadly weapon (his vehicle).
 
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