Do you actively use the internal locks of your guns? Or would you use the internal lock of a gun, if you owned one with an internal lock?
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Poll: What percentage of you utilize an internal lock (or would if available)?
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I NEVER use them. EVER.
The last thing I ever want to do is engage the lock and then put the gun in a holster a few days later.
The lock is a storage device. Proper storage is in some sort of locked container. If the owner really needs to lock the gun down, a cable lock may be passed through the action.
There is absolutely no need for an extremely wimpy lock that is easily picked on a gun.
The last thing I ever want to do is engage the lock and then put the gun in a holster a few days later.
The lock is a storage device. Proper storage is in some sort of locked container. If the owner really needs to lock the gun down, a cable lock may be passed through the action.
There is absolutely no need for an extremely wimpy lock that is easily picked on a gun.
CajunBass
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I used to have a Taurus 85 that had a lock. When I first started to carry, I'd lock it when I left it in the car while I was at work. Eventually it got to be to much trouble so I stopped.
I didn't care that it was there though. Still don't.
I didn't care that it was there though. Still don't.
I have two S&W revolvers with ILS. I've never used the locks and never intend to. If any of my other guns had an internal locking device, I would not use it.
Zundfolge
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I own two Steyr pistols and one S&W revolver with the internal lock.
Never used the locks in any of them.
But to be honest I don't lock up most of my guns with external locks either ... since we don't have kids, most of my guns are loaded and distributed around the house where the wife (who doesn't CCW and is home alone all day) can get to them if needed.
Never used the locks in any of them.
But to be honest I don't lock up most of my guns with external locks either ... since we don't have kids, most of my guns are loaded and distributed around the house where the wife (who doesn't CCW and is home alone all day) can get to them if needed.
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CraigC
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Absolutely not and the only revolvers I will own that even have internal locks are Ruger single actions.
I have two guns with IlSes, ( neither a S&W revolver ) have never used either, don't intend to ever use them and can't think off hand where the keys are!
They are not needed but at least on the ones I have aren't detrimental to the proper functioning of my weapons.
They are not needed but at least on the ones I have aren't detrimental to the proper functioning of my weapons.
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I'd like clarification before I vote.
a. Would I lock the gun at night or before storing?
b. Would I use it at all?
I have a S&W with an internal lock. I do not use it on a regular basis, its currently unlocked and loaded on my nightstand. But I do like practicing drawing from conceal with a full weapon. I -do- lock the gun, verify lock engagement, fill the cylinder and practice.
How should I vote?
I'd like clarification before I vote.
a. Would I lock the gun at night or before storing?
b. Would I use it at all?
I have a S&W with an internal lock. I do not use it on a regular basis, its currently unlocked and loaded on my nightstand. But I do like practicing drawing from conceal with a full weapon. I -do- lock the gun, verify lock engagement, fill the cylinder and practice.
How should I vote?
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Anything I'm not keeping loaded and ready is in my gun safe and empty.
Besides, if I have one or two guns with an internal lock, and a few others without...
I'd probably easily forget about it, unless I kept a checklist on the safe.
...might do that anyway.
Besides, if I have one or two guns with an internal lock, and a few others without...
I'd probably easily forget about it, unless I kept a checklist on the safe.
...might do that anyway.
I -do- lock the gun, verify lock engagement, fill the cylinder and practice
I would say that this is an example of an unsafe practice.--NEVER-NEVER-trust any type of lock with live ammo. You stated "fill the cylinder" I assumed you were suggesting to "Cow Boy" draw with LIVE ammo, not fired cases.
Since this is the Revolver section, IF in fact you require a lock of some kind, it's hard to beat a good ole Master Lock over the top of the frame, with the cylinder open.
I would say that this is an example of an unsafe practice.--NEVER-NEVER-trust any type of lock with live ammo. You stated "fill the cylinder" I assumed you were suggesting to "Cow Boy" draw with LIVE ammo, not fired cases.
Since this is the Revolver section, IF in fact you require a lock of some kind, it's hard to beat a good ole Master Lock over the top of the frame, with the cylinder open.
I have a fire extinguisher which is unlocked. If I need it , I need it fast.
The ones in the safe do not need to be locked.
Safety is an attitude. I unplug tools when not in use, I do not lock them.
I taught my kids to be safe at home and work ALWAYS.
The ones in the safe do not need to be locked.
Safety is an attitude. I unplug tools when not in use, I do not lock them.
I taught my kids to be safe at home and work ALWAYS.
You're probably not going to get a special key into a locked gun in the dark. The special internal locks satisfy laws, not reality or necessity.
Internal locks are like airport security. They're there to make you feel safe when you really aren't. Actually, it's there to make people who don't understand the particulars of safety and firearms to feel better.
If you have kids, you should probably get a gun safe, even a small one. A firearm that doesn't shoot is just a rock to throw. A safe that you can open quickly, but has a useful firearm inside is thoughtful planning.
I live alone, but my firearms are loaded and ready to fire. When I visit, my firearm gets unloaded, with the safety on, so small hands can't do anything bad. When children visit my house, guns are locked up. Even my bedroom door has a key lock, just so that no tragedies can occur.
Internal locks are like airport security. They're there to make you feel safe when you really aren't. Actually, it's there to make people who don't understand the particulars of safety and firearms to feel better.
If you have kids, you should probably get a gun safe, even a small one. A firearm that doesn't shoot is just a rock to throw. A safe that you can open quickly, but has a useful firearm inside is thoughtful planning.
I live alone, but my firearms are loaded and ready to fire. When I visit, my firearm gets unloaded, with the safety on, so small hands can't do anything bad. When children visit my house, guns are locked up. Even my bedroom door has a key lock, just so that no tragedies can occur.
The ones on the Taurus are harmless, "out of site out of mind". They have a screw that raises up stopping you from cocking the gun. When I bought my Taurus I didn't even know it was there. The Smiths are a different story (from what I've read and seen in pictures) they can internally affect the action. I never use the one on my Taurus and forget it's even there.
I can't see how the Taurus can be construed as an "internal lock" when it is all external.
I can't see how the Taurus can be construed as an "internal lock" when it is all external.
I have four guns with the internal locks, a Walther P-22, a Remington 572, an 870 Marine Magnum, and a S&W 340. The lock on the Smith has been removed because it's for defense and back-up. I have no idea if the locks on the rest even work, they've never been used. I think I know about where the keys are though. The locks are a stupid waste of time and money.
Locks might be good to have if you have kids that you can't/won't control. I got rid of the kids and got more guns.
Hondo 60
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The Smith IL is a idiotic design.
I cannot imagine owning a gun that might lock itself.
Taurus/Ruger design I would simply not use it.
I cannot imagine owning a gun that might lock itself.
Taurus/Ruger design I would simply not use it.
I have used the IL when I fly in addition to a cable lock and strong padlock on the hard case which is all placed inside a hardshell suitcase that has two keyed locks and a combination lock. After all that, I still wonder if I can trust TSA and the airlines with a gun and ammo outside of my control. Other than this situation, I never used the lock.
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