Polymer framed double-stack 1911 in 10mm Auto?

[MTMilitiaman]

Does it exist? I love my Glock 20 and the 10mm cartridge it shoots. I was thinking about other options on the market. The really unique thing about the G20 is it gives you capacity and power in a platform of manageable weight.
You can get 1911s in 10mm from any number of manufactures but they are mostly single stack guns with half the capacity of my Glock. There are double column 1911s in 10mm but they are steel framed affairs that weigh almost as much as the Desert Eagle (and cost and arm and a leg). SIG makes a 220 in 10mm but again it is single stack. EAA makes the Witness in 10mm but it is a DA/SA, which I hate. If the Witness was available in SAO with an ambi switch, it would be worth checking out. As near as I can tell, it isn't, so I won't.

Are there any double column polymer framed 10mm 1911s out there? Any other high capacity 10mms that weigh less than 40 oz unloaded and have a single, consistent trigger pull?

 

[Hokie_PhD]

Interesting.
I've been looking for an 80% 2011 (double stack 1911) in 9mm. The only ones I've seen are from STI, so I doubt if I'm having a hard time finding a 9mm and I don't care if it's poly or steel, you'll find a 10mm. But maybe we'll both get lucky and someone knows what we don't and can help us out!

 

[bnolsen]

EAA witness is a CZ action. Here's a thread on making them SAO:

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=43435.0

 

[Stumper]

The Witness is SA/DA.....but it permits cocked and locked carry so it doesn't seem like it would be awkward for a 1911 shooter. I love the ergonomics of the Witness but it feels like there is an unlock timing issue ...it throws brass 35-40 feet and leaves a firing pin smear on the primers. I've put heavier springs in mine but it still flings them and it is harder to cycle and may be harder on the gun since the return to battery slams harder. As much as I like the feel of it I seldom shoot it and shoot my brick, er... Glock 20SF more.

 

[Walkalong]

The 10MM is hard enough on a 1911 as it is.

 

[MTMilitiaman]

The 10MM is hard enough on a 1911 as it is.

Meaning what? A lot of the first gen steel framed guns developed a reputation for shooting themselves apart. The Glock is among the only 10mms that has never had problems with durability. So if you mean to insinuate that a polymer framed 1911 wouldn't be able to withstand the 10mm, I beg to differ. In fact, experience tells us that the polymer framed gun stands a good chance of being more durable than the steel framed gun.

 

[JTQ]

Meaning what? A lot of the first gen steel framed guns developed a reputation for shooting themselves apart. The Glock is among the only 10mms that has never had problems with durability. So if you mean to insinuate that a polymer framed 1911 wouldn't be able to withstand the 10mm, I beg to differ. In fact, experience tells us that the polymer framed gun stands a good chance of being more durable than the steel framed gun.

It's not really a straight up poly vs steel/aluminum frame you're comparing, you're comparing two completely different designs.

I'm not much of a 10mm fan, though I am a 1911 guy. I don't really know if the 10mm is a problem for the 1911. However, I will note STI, the king of the double stack 1911, doesn't appear to offer a 10mm version anymore. They used to offer their "Perfect 10", and some other models, and you may be able to find them on the used market. In spite of the apparent resurgence in 10mm popularity, they dropped the chambering for some reason. It may just be a coincidence they dropped 10mm from the line-up, which if it is the case, you may find them back among their offerings. On the other hand, maybe their was a functional reason for them dropping it. I don't know, but they are the go to folks for double stack 1911's (2011's) and they don't offer one in 10mm.

Here's STI's site in the event you haven't looked though it before.

STI https://stiguns.com

 

[Havok7416]

Springfield has announced a 10mm XD is in the works, but AFAIK there is no release date yet.

 

[SHOOT1SAM]

..If the Witness was available in SAO...

They are: https://eaacorp.com/index.php/guns/handguns/witness-elite-match-93
Part number 741566111495

Witness Elite Match may be the closest thing to your parameters:
Double-stack magazine, SAO, but not a polymer frame.

I had one & now wish I had kept it.

Sam

 

[Walkalong]

Meaning what? A lot of the first gen steel framed guns developed a reputation for shooting themselves apart. The Glock is among the only 10mms that has never had problems with durability. So if you mean to insinuate that a polymer framed 1911 wouldn't be able to withstand the 10mm, I beg to differ. In fact, experience tells us that the polymer framed gun stands a good chance of being more durable than the steel framed gun.

Sounds like your mind is made up, so good luck finding one. But yes, I would worry about it holding up.

 

[Varminterror]

While I have not yet finished the build, STI stated to me, readily and confidently, their 2011 frames will stand up to 460 Rowland. I'll find out soon enough whether they were lying or not, but based on how quickly they supplied the answer, and how confident they were in it, I'd say the 10mm is a lot less to worry about.

 

[JTQ]

While I have not yet finished the build, STI stated to me, readily and confidently, their 2011 frames will stand up to 460 Rowland. I'll find out soon enough whether they were lying or not, but based on how quickly they supplied the answer, and how confident they were in it, I'd say the 10mm is a lot less to worry about.

That's something the OP should probably look into, then. Build one.

If STI is good to go, then I'd suspect SVI (Infinity) would also be good to go. I don't know enough about their product line, but they may offer a 10mm model.

Infinity http://www.infinityfirearms.com

 

[Jim Watson]

I have found, and Bob Londrigan dba Brazos Gunworks confirms, that the 2011 magazine is rather short. My .45 wants nothing longer than about 1.245".
The 10mm is a rather long round, not really meant for the 1911, so maybe that is why you don't see the Perfect 10 any more.

 

[tarosean]

STI NITRO
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/697218675