This is what I use. Easy and accurate.
Powders & Loads for 158gr LSWC @ < 800 FPS in a 357 case
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This is what I use. Easy and accurate.
LUCKYDAWG13
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3.7 gr / 4 gr Red Dot works good in my pistol I would also look at BullsEye for powder
Toprudder
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Ok, then use dark grey coated bullets.
Yes, that is true. Those grains are so small, though, I've never had them interfere with the operation of the gun or anything. They just kind of sit there until you wipe them off. At least in my old Model 19... maybe it has reached Kalashnikov levels of clearances/tolerances!
Salmoneye
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I'm betting those amounts of Red Dot would be over 800fps...
My old Alliant manual shows a 148gr wadcutter load in .357 brass is 2.8gr for 780fps...
Current Alliant/Speer website data shows 3gr (in a .38SPCL case) for 806fps...
With a 158gr SWC in .357 brass, I'd guesstimate 3gr-3.2gr of Red Dot for appx. 800fps...
Just a WAG...
It'd be much easier to limit the use to Special cases rather than try and verify that everyone using Magnum cases is actually using Special loads. Once you start making exceptions you are eventually going to have a problem when someone accidentally grabs their Magnum loads. It's harder to verify the criteria is being met if the loads don't match case.
What happens when someone uses .38/44 loads? Or 44 special Keith loads? Or 9mm major loads? There are plenty of very hot loads that fit into smaller cases.
That's a definite possibility. Heck, it's just as easy to load a Magnum load into a Special case as it is a Magnum case. However you're less likely to run into problems by limiting it to the use of Special cases. When you allow the use of reloads anything is possible and that's why some ranges don't allow them. Personally I avoid going to those ranges, however I can see some value in limiting the use to Special cases if your goal is to limit loads to under 1000 FPS.
If you have staff that's available to chronograph rounds from every box someone brings in that'd be one way to verify what someone is using but I'm guessing most ranges don't have the staffing to handle that.
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Red Dot, Bullseye, Ramshot True Blue and Accurate No 2 have shot well with my 357mag and 158gr Truncated Cone lead bullets. My range also has limitations too but this is from a lever action rifle so the velocities aren't relevant for you.
Those ranges are in a category I like to call "ranges that don't get any of my money."
Toprudder
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Not to get too far off topic, but....Those ranges are in a category I like to call "ranges that don't get any of my money."
The newest indoor range that is very close to where I live, right before they opened, stated they were not going to allow reloads. They go so much negative response from that statement that they backed off that requirement.
I like going there, the RSOs are pretty good at sweeping brass my way because they know I reload, and several of the RSOs reload themselves.
Buckeye357
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Trail Boss and AA No.2 with 158gr.LSWC will work.
Dudedog
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No need to wait for it to get cold, put them in a ziplock bag in an ice chest. I usually have an ice chest of water/gatoraide with me for my 100+ summer days.
That can get you a 50 swing if not more.
Toprudder
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And the shooter, too!
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rodregier
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Chrono in a walk-in freezer with a bullet trap
Buck13
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Another vote for Trail Boss and whatever lead bullet interests you. TB isn't the most economical, but the smoke drooling out of the barrel is amusing. It will dirty up the outside of your cylinder a lot, in my experience, but that gives the gun character.
I'd take the starting load from Hodgden's website for .38 Special and add 10% to make up for the difference in case volume (so, 3.0 grains for a 158). That bump probably isn't necessary, but without a chrono it's reassuring to be certain you're nowhere near a stuck bullet.
I'd take the starting load from Hodgden's website for .38 Special and add 10% to make up for the difference in case volume (so, 3.0 grains for a 158). That bump probably isn't necessary, but without a chrono it's reassuring to be certain you're nowhere near a stuck bullet.
Dudedog
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When it's 105+ I wish I could fit in the ice chest!
Ok, then use dark grey coated bullets.
Or better yet, they do make a clear powder coat. I haven't used it, but I've seen photos. Looks like a shiny lead bullet.
GP100man
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I answered yes ,but load in mag cases , anything from 750 fps WC`s to 190 gr lead rnfp
Brass cases only, preferably Starline, WW or fed in that order.
But I shoot a lot more slower (less recoil) rounds than the rest combined .
Wrench turnin has taken it`s toll on my hands.
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Brass cases only, preferably Starline, WW or fed in that order.
But I shoot a lot more slower (less recoil) rounds than the rest combined .
Wrench turnin has taken it`s toll on my hands.
GP
Steve51
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I shoot .38 special loads and .357 loads in both of my .357 revolvers. I clean them after each use and have never experienced any problems in the cylinders. I also like DEWC for target shooting out to 25 yds. I usually stay with Unique or HP-38 for my .38 special loads. I like the MBC coated 148 gr. DEWC and the X-Treme 148 gr. plated DEWC.
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