Precision Bullets=Bad Christmas Gift?

[Tony k]

Yesterday I ordered some Precision Bullets 230grain .45 bullets for a christmas present for my brother.

http://www.precisionbullets.com/products.html


AFTER I already placed the order, I noticed that the website says:

"Make sure to have a good bell on the case so not to shave off the coating during the seating process.
Do not seat and crimp the bullets in the same die. Use a separate taper crimp die.
We highly recommend Dillon reloading equipment.
Do not use a roll crimp or Lee Factory Taper Crimp Dies.
The roll crimp will cut through the coating. You must use a taper crimp die.
The Lee Factory Taper Crimp Die will undersize the bullets causing accuracy and fouling problems.Most of the time a heavier crimp will work better."

My brother uses the Lee four die set for .45 loading, including the lee factory crimp die. He's never loaded these bullets before, and he's gonna be bummed if he has to mess around with the taper crimp feature on his seating die (lee dies have that, right?).

I guess I could get him a taper crimp die as well, but I'm kinda low on christmas gift funds.

Anyone have experience with Precision Bullets? Anyone tried using a lee factory crimp with these bullets?

Any suggestions?

Or should I just let him sort it out himself?

 

[Walkalong]

I have used those bullets, and they shoot well.

You do need to make sure the bell is sufficient, but it doesn't need to be any more than most folks use for lead.

Unless you are over crimping, you should be able to seat and crimp in one step, but to be sure, a Lee taper crimp only die is $12.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=7699828&postcount=14

No, you should not use a roll crimp. And I agree, do not use the FCD, as it may squeeze it down too much.

 

[HexHead]

Also get him a Dillon crimp die. He'll also be able to take it apart to clean it without disturbing his settings.

 

[sexybeast]

I tried a batch of 9mm and did not like them. But I have a friend that loves them. They are clean compared to lead.
Basically they are plated and you load them like plated. He can tapercrimp as the bullet is set but a seperate tapercrimp die is cheap and you can let the set die alone.

 

[hentown]

I've used a bunch of those black bullets. I also loaded 'em all, crimping with the Lee FCD, with no problems. I didn't feel the carbide sizing ring doing anything.

Prepare for some smoke.

 

[readyeddy]

Just tell your brother to seat the bullets after backing out 4 full turns after the die makes contact with the shell holder. Then remove the bullet seater to apply the taper crimp in a separate step.

 

[Tony k]

Thanks Folks,
I checked out that Dillon TC die....It's pretty sweet.

I think I'll just let him know what the company reccommends then he can make his own decision. He's got all the equipment on hand to deal with the change. He'll figure it out.

We'll see what kind of results he gets...

Next time I'll just get him the bullets he normally uses and use myself as the guinea pig