Primer Seating Question

[TomJ]

I have a Dillon XL750 reloader which is currently set up for 9mm. I have CCI, Federal, Remington and Ginex SPP primers. The first three primers seat fully, but for 3 to 4 rounds per 50 using the Ginex primers, the primers do not quite seat completely. The difference is not much and is difficult to see by looking at them, but I could feel it when I run my finger over them. I don't want to change the adjustments on the XL750 as it took me a while to get the primers feeding correctly and it works with 3 of the 4 primer manufacturers I use. Is there a danger in using a hand primer to fully seat the primer on a live round? I've been a little uncomfortable doing so and have yet to try it. If it can cause a problem I can size and prime the brass separately prior to loading them.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I have a Dillon XL750 reloader which is currently set up for 9mm. I have CCI, Federal, Remington and Ginex SPP primers. The first three primers seat fully, but for 3 to 4 rounds per 50 using the Ginex primers, the primers do not quite seat completely. The difference is not much and is difficult to see by looking at them, but I could feel it when I run my finger over them. I don't want to change the adjustments on the XL750 as it took me a while to get the primers feeding correctly and it works with 3 of the 4 primer manufacturers I use. Is there a danger in using a hand primer to fully seat the primer on a live round? I've been a little uncomfortable doing so and have yet to try it. If it can cause a problem I can size and prime the brass separately prior to loading them.

Can’t wait to read the responses. No one will say it’s safe. But some will say they’ve done it.

Better safe than sorry is my advice.

 

[mdi]

On a live, completed handload? Not a good idea. On a primed, empty case? No problem. BTDT many times...

 

[rfwobbly]

I get about 3 of those a year.
• If they are for an auto pistol, then I simply shoot them. It may take 2 strikes with the hammer, but I shoot DA hammer guns and can easily do that.
• If they are for a revolver, then they will typically keep the cylinder from rotating. I put those back in the press. And I place the body of the press between me and the round while pulling the op lever.

I have never had an ignition, but I still would not recommend doing that by hand.

 

[ballman6711]

Keep the routine you have for the 3 types of primers. Prime separately or off the press for the Ginex. That's what I would do.

To answer your question of can you, my answer is yes. "Should you" is a different question, and I would recommend not doing it.

chris

 

[film495]

it will be interesting to see if the hand primer still has the same issue with those primers.

 

[Show Me]

Not saying anything againt safety rules. How many primers have you had go off seating them

 

[TomJ]

Thanks for the responses. They’re pretty much what I thought but I figured I’d ask. Ballman6712’s suggestion is what I was thinking.

Film495, the Ginex primers seat completely when I’ve hand primed the brass in the past.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Not saying anything againt safety rules. How many primers have you had go off seating them

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[mdi]

I haven't heard any reliable reports of a handload going off while reseating a primer. I haven't tried on a finished cartridge, and don't intend to. Maybe someone could reseat primers, on a progressive (or any other) press with complete safety for thousands of rounds. For over 40 years I haven't taken any such chances, but I don't ride my Harley without a Helmet and I carry when in So. Central LA....

 

[Englishmn]

I had several hundred rounds of 460s&w that had high primers from the manufacturer. I reseated them all on an old rcbs bench primer. Even had to do some federal ammo. Eyes ears don’t hold on to the round or lean over. Probably way safer than driving to the store.

But ultimately it’s your choice.

 

[EricBu]

I have a Dillon XL750 reloader which is currently set up for 9mm. I have CCI, Federal, Remington and Ginex SPP primers. The first three primers seat fully, but for 3 to 4 rounds per 50 using the Ginex primers, the primers do not quite seat completely. The difference is not much and is difficult to see by looking at them, but I could feel it when I run my finger over them. I don't want to change the adjustments on the XL750 as it took me a while to get the primers feeding correctly and it works with 3 of the 4 primer manufacturers I use. Is there a danger in using a hand primer to fully seat the primer on a live round? I've been a little uncomfortable doing so and have yet to try it. If it can cause a problem I can size and prime the brass separately prior to loading them.

You need to put more azz into seating it. The Ginex are slightly bigger and harder to seat. As to going back and doing it...you can do anything you want if you accept the risk. I've certainly done it, and it's certainly not recommended. Just know that you'll have the same problem with your hand primer....you've got to put about twice as much effort into seating a Ginex. Whether you want to do that on a live round......ain't gonna tell you it's OK, you just have to accept the risk yourself.

 

[Jim Watson]

I can feel when my D550 does not seat a primer well and can slip the case out and put it in a hand tool.
I have reseated primers after loading but it is not good practice.

 

[AJC1]

I would always like to address a problem at the bench instead of a live fire event. Just shooting a known issue is not a choice for me, as others saftey is also an issue. Add whatever ppe or steps you need to fix them. If you were addressing this in a semi rifle caliber and shot them, you could double or get a situation that gets you sent home or banned from the range.

 

[TRAILS-END]

I have a Dillon 650 and had the same problem . Don't think it was the machine's fault but more discrepancies in brass or primers. Now I prime with an RCBS bench primer and still have a few primers that are high but now I can put them aside and try to add a little more pressure. Then I run the already primed brass thru the 650.

 

[PWC]

This is one reason why most people having a progressive still have a single stage press.