earlthegoat2
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European proof marks would be my method.
Professional gunsmith here, ask me anything
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European proof marks would be my method.
JFrank
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Gents,
Beyond the obvious being C.I.P. lists in metric values in addition to cartridges being tested to higher pressure.
I Don’t Know....that’s why I asked the new resident Gunsmith.
J
Beyond the obvious being C.I.P. lists in metric values in addition to cartridges being tested to higher pressure.
I Don’t Know....that’s why I asked the new resident Gunsmith.
J
MosinT53Hunter
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OP has been AWOL since Jan 27. Might be a while before you get an answer.
entropy
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Perhaps the obvious answer is the answer. I have been gunsmithing longer than the 'new resident gunsmith' has been alive. When he mentioned 'platforms' in one of his posts, that was kind of a tip-off.
A barrel made in a shop in Europe would have been tested to CIP standards, one in the US to SAAMI standards, hence my answer. If that makes me Captain Obvious, I wear the red blazer and ostentatious hat proudly.
A barrel made in a shop in Europe would have been tested to CIP standards, one in the US to SAAMI standards, hence my answer. If that makes me Captain Obvious, I wear the red blazer and ostentatious hat proudly.
JFrank
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I was looking for dimensional differences more than anything, specifically within Tikka rifle chamber
beag_nut
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So, what happened to "Gunman1981", the OP?
JFrank
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I don’t know that either, hell i’m still trying to figure out why my first wife left me.
JFrank
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We need @Varminterror over here to straighten this mess out.
Comonman jump in
Comonman jump in
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Varminterror
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Haha, nah amigo, I knew this thread would turn into a tire fire as soon as I saw the opening post ~2wks ago... I’m surprised it didn’t turn worse, but not surprised the OP hasn’t returned.
The nail which sticks out, gets hammered down - sometimes deservedly so, sometimes just because they’re not effective at communicating their true intent, and sometimes because others are simply waiting with hammers in hand for an opportunity.
If I were a smart man, I’d close all of my forum memberships entirely, and spend my minutes in more productive pursuits. Someday. Maybe someday soon, the way things have been going.
JFrank
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Something about a truck Fire ya just have to look see.....
earlthegoat2
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Well, this tire fire you speak of seems to be extinguishing itself....
As far as forum memberships go.....they are similar to a tire fire. Horrible, smelly mess but I can’t look away.
Varminterror
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I know better, but I’ve been participating in forums for over 20 years, and old habits die hard. I have the luxury of a flexible work schedule, so I visit forums to combat the doldrums between more active portions of my workdays. But I’ve been stuck in a downward spiral of late, where what should be an engaging distraction has become wholly exasperating. As a Fatalist, I expect this thread crossed my path to push me to finally cut ties and find some new means to fill the voids in my days.
JFrank
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Well I’m my opinion @Varminterror has stood tall and helped people asking nothing in return, i for one am very thankful.
Best Regards
Jim
Now let’s try to figure out why the neighbors dog only craps in my yard....
Best Regards
Jim
Now let’s try to figure out why the neighbors dog only craps in my yard....
Varminterror
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Now let’s try to figure out why the neighbors dog only craps in my yard....
I know why MY neighbor’s dog only craps in my yard... ‘cuz she only WALKS IT IN MY YARD!!
earlthegoat2
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Well I’m my opinion @Varminterror has stood tall and helped people asking nothing in return, i for one am very thankful.
Best Regards
Jim
Now let’s try to figure out why the neighbors dog only craps in my yard....
I do enjoy the long detailed posts that seem to never leave any details out. Often, they point out complications in ones line of thinking and offer simpler suggestions. I like that.
Catpop
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Wow I haven’t and I ran a rural gunshop for 30 years. I thought I had seen them all- bulged, bent, run over by truck, blown off, sawed off crooked, drilled out! I wonder how that one ever got by the inspectors!
Almost looks like someone took another piece of bad barrel and taped it to muzzle of another good rifle with black electrical tape!
I did have a 12 gauge HR shotgun one time that did have a severely eccentric barrel that was only found after I cut off the muzzle balloon caused by ramming it in the mud and then trying to shoot a big buck with OOBuck!
Oh yeah, he missed!
Alaskan Ironworker
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Oddly enough after bedding the recoil lug, the barrel groups halfway decent, at least for a “leave at the cabin gun”. But its still ugly as sin lol. Shoots into 4 or 5 inches at 100 with sellier & bellot 196 grain soft points. Perfect reliable beater to take blue berry picking this fall.
Catpop
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Iron worker,
It should shoot fine! But it would be a B to put a factory type round crown on!
Not having a lathe with a long enough bed, I used to saw them off with a hack saw, then make the barrel perfectly flat with a machinist square and a 12” file, chamber the outside edge with a file, polish up a bit with a felt wheel, then cut the crown with a Brownells crown cutter and finish with Brownells oxpho-blue. They all grouped less than 4 MOA and most MOA! Of course I didn’t waste his money or my time on a shot out barrel! I can’t count the number of farmers rifles I put back into service over 30 years!
Good luck with yours!
By the way what is make, model and caliber of rifle- just curious?
Catpop
It should shoot fine! But it would be a B to put a factory type round crown on!
Not having a lathe with a long enough bed, I used to saw them off with a hack saw, then make the barrel perfectly flat with a machinist square and a 12” file, chamber the outside edge with a file, polish up a bit with a felt wheel, then cut the crown with a Brownells crown cutter and finish with Brownells oxpho-blue. They all grouped less than 4 MOA and most MOA! Of course I didn’t waste his money or my time on a shot out barrel! I can’t count the number of farmers rifles I put back into service over 30 years!
Good luck with yours!
By the way what is make, model and caliber of rifle- just curious?
Catpop
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Alaskan Ironworker
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Its a turkish mauser, with an aftermarket barrel of unknown manufacture in 8x57.
Catpop
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Lordy no! Then yawl guys would smash me into oblivion like the last resident gunsmith!
I only offer help on things I have actually physically done.
Always remember, there are those that DO, the rest sit on their laurels and teach!
Catpop
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So I guess the warranty’s out on that one, huh?
But it still might benefit from my redneck method described above! Give it a try, I’m sure as an iron worker you have all the simple tools at hand! Heck, you might even get MOA for you efforts!
Note: the Crowning tool is not required, but it does help protect the new flat sharp rifling surface from future damage.
Alaskan Ironworker
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Just a normal guy here, high school educated.
Go ahead, ask me anything.
Go ahead, ask me anything.
Alaskan Ironworker
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I already hacked the barrel as you described, thats when I noticed the barrel off center.
Catpop
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There you go! Now finish the job and see if you can improve on the 4-5 MOA!
Good luck and be sure to tell us how it turned out!
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