Funderb
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**All the women of the town of rock ledge scream**
Proper way to show someone your firearm
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**All the women of the town of rock ledge scream**
Personally, I've always cleared and locked the action of any firearm before I hand it to another or set it down. Then, when the other person takes it, I expect a "Thank You" or "I have it" to acknowledge that they are now in control of it. Grandpa taught me to do this with hand tools, knives, firearms, and other hazardous items. Dad repeated the lesson, and so did Scouts. Mom REALLY drove it home.
When I receive a firearm from another, I use "Thank You" then check the action MYSELF, even if I did watch them do it only 3 seconds earlier. I've gotten some odd looks, but most of the friends that I allow to handle my firearms (and vice versa) have picked this habit up. And I'm working on the rest.
When I receive a firearm from another, I use "Thank You" then check the action MYSELF, even if I did watch them do it only 3 seconds earlier. I've gotten some odd looks, but most of the friends that I allow to handle my firearms (and vice versa) have picked this habit up. And I'm working on the rest.
Baba Louie
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rich0372... You've come to the right conclusion I think.
I'm afraid to say that act, knowingly and willfully pointing a firearm at me (or another person) to make a point... terminate that aspect of the relationship here and now (I would at any rate).
Should the subject ever come up again with FIL, I'm afraid I'd have to remind him in specific precise language he could in no way misconstrue that NO ONE who knows ANYTHING about safely handling firearms, EVER, EVER points one at me or my family, loaded or not.
That kinda chaps my cheeks, ya know?
This could not happen I was sitting next to the gun it was between me and him plus there were no children in the house and my wife is trained in firearm safety. I don't agree with you all he had to do is check the chamber or just simply ask me for the gun then I would have locked the action open and handed it to him.
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From what I can see, I think a key issue in this thread may be a cultural (or generational) divide over a man's relationship to his father-in-law. Some think that a father in law assumes a patriarchal role over his son in law by default, and is to be deferred to as though he were, in fact, his father. Others see this relationship as merely two men, albeit one older and one younger, who should ideally be properly respectful of each other.
Personally, I lean toward the second view, but I can understand that in a lot of places, and in a lot of families, things don't work that way.
The way I hand off a gun depends on the circumstances. To one of my friends (these are very few, and men whom I trust implicitly), I will always check a gun before handing it over, but may or may not lock the slide back. If my friend has watched me check it, then probably not. And if they hand me a gun, whether they check it or not, I check it myself, but even if they handed it to me loaded (they would never do this), I wouldn't chastise them.
To anyone else, familiar with guns or not, I check the gun in their view, and lock the slide back, explaining the controls on the weapon if needed as I do so. If someone who was not a friend (even if friendly, like an acquaintance or relative) handed me a loaded gun, or one not properly cleared, I would mention it to them, but still would not be upset about it.
I'm single, but if in some hypothetical future I was handing a gun to my father-in-law (unless it was a strange circumstance where he happened to be a close friend, and not just a friendly relative), I would not hand it over in the holster, but empty and slide locked back, after checking it in his view.
And if my father in law made a disparaging remark about my gun etiquette, or anything else, I'd probably ignore it. If he continually treated me like a child, an idiot, or as unworthy of his daughter, I'd avoid him whenever possible, and regard him with aloof courtesy whenever we were forced to interact.
Personally, I lean toward the second view, but I can understand that in a lot of places, and in a lot of families, things don't work that way.
The way I hand off a gun depends on the circumstances. To one of my friends (these are very few, and men whom I trust implicitly), I will always check a gun before handing it over, but may or may not lock the slide back. If my friend has watched me check it, then probably not. And if they hand me a gun, whether they check it or not, I check it myself, but even if they handed it to me loaded (they would never do this), I wouldn't chastise them.
To anyone else, familiar with guns or not, I check the gun in their view, and lock the slide back, explaining the controls on the weapon if needed as I do so. If someone who was not a friend (even if friendly, like an acquaintance or relative) handed me a loaded gun, or one not properly cleared, I would mention it to them, but still would not be upset about it.
I'm single, but if in some hypothetical future I was handing a gun to my father-in-law (unless it was a strange circumstance where he happened to be a close friend, and not just a friendly relative), I would not hand it over in the holster, but empty and slide locked back, after checking it in his view.
And if my father in law made a disparaging remark about my gun etiquette, or anything else, I'd probably ignore it. If he continually treated me like a child, an idiot, or as unworthy of his daughter, I'd avoid him whenever possible, and regard him with aloof courtesy whenever we were forced to interact.
Eskimo Jim
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Rich,
This is what I would have done. when you took the semi auto out of where it was:
1) make sure the safety was on
2) keep my finger out of the trigger guard
3) drop the magazine
4) rack the slide back
5) rack the slide back and hold it back and pushed the slide lock lever to keep the slide back
6) bring the handgun into the room with the action clearly opened and put it on the table. If concerned about scratching the table or the gun, put a piece of cloth down. I keep a clean cloth with my gear for this purpose
7) set the handgun down with the ejection port facing up.
8) the person can now look or touch and you have both hands free to assist the person
For revolvers:
1) hold the revolver in the right hand, index finger along the frame
2) open the cylinder
3) switch the revolver to the left hand and cradle the frame with your left hand. Middle two fingers through the frame window, resting on the cylinder with the pinky and the index finger supporting the frame.
4) carry the revolver into the room and place on the table with the cylinder open.
This what I learned and teach in the NRA handgun safety course. It has worked for me for years.
Jim
This is what I would have done. when you took the semi auto out of where it was:
1) make sure the safety was on
2) keep my finger out of the trigger guard
3) drop the magazine
4) rack the slide back
5) rack the slide back and hold it back and pushed the slide lock lever to keep the slide back
6) bring the handgun into the room with the action clearly opened and put it on the table. If concerned about scratching the table or the gun, put a piece of cloth down. I keep a clean cloth with my gear for this purpose
7) set the handgun down with the ejection port facing up.
8) the person can now look or touch and you have both hands free to assist the person
For revolvers:
1) hold the revolver in the right hand, index finger along the frame
2) open the cylinder
3) switch the revolver to the left hand and cradle the frame with your left hand. Middle two fingers through the frame window, resting on the cylinder with the pinky and the index finger supporting the frame.
4) carry the revolver into the room and place on the table with the cylinder open.
This what I learned and teach in the NRA handgun safety course. It has worked for me for years.
Jim
EskimoJim your right but, in this situation I felt like I didn't need to because one I was right there next to the gun two I didn't hand it to him it was in a holster and the mag was out and three this is the biggest one he's my FIL that's has expierience with firearm for years. And I knew it was empty. The reason I came in the room with it in the holster is because it is my carry/house gun so it's always loaded so I cleared it in my bedroom first.
CAPTAIN MIKE
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Right Way to Do It
ZeSpectre's post has it "just right". Yes, there is such a thing as Gun Etiquette, and if we all do our best to Standardize it, then that's a Good Thing.
ZeSpectre's post has it "just right". Yes, there is such a thing as Gun Etiquette, and if we all do our best to Standardize it, then that's a Good Thing.
TexKettering
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I don't usually hand a handgun to someone with the slide locked back.
I don't want them to drop the slide release and hammer the slide home. It's easier to check it in front of them and give them a cleared gun with the slide forward.
I think what I'm going to do now is hand them the cleared, slide forward gun but tell them to check it themselves, even though I just did in front of them.
I don't want them to drop the slide release and hammer the slide home. It's easier to check it in front of them and give them a cleared gun with the slide forward.
I think what I'm going to do now is hand them the cleared, slide forward gun but tell them to check it themselves, even though I just did in front of them.
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