purpose behind civilian "carbine"

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Avenger29:

You mentioned belligerent hunters. I know a Flight Attendant who lives in north central MS.

She told me that she heard some guys shooting on her land.
She stated that she carried her M-1 Carbine with a large mag and saw that the guys were on horseback, and they gave her no problem when she told them that they must have seen her "No Tresp." signs. Don't mess with ladies from TX or anywhere else. They don't tolerate intruders either.

Sunray: Good point about 'wanting' a semi-auto. A CETME G-3 seemed very appealing until reading so many reports about the problems reloading the beaten-up brass, when the objective is economics for a beginner reloader.

wishin:
An immigrant hunter killed some other hunters in Wisconsin several years ago when he somehow felt threatened. A misunderstanding due to body language used by two different cultures, or maybe unfamiliar verbal slang/colloquial expressions?
 
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Lighter, shorter and easier to move around indoors by virtue of being lighter and shorter. Has the same capacity and caliber as the A2 (which I do have and enjoy shooting). Works great as a HD gun for me and the wife. Especially for her since it's, well, lighter and shorter.
 
Because, the US army has few M16A4s and and USMC has few M4s. Neither branch of service has extensive experience with both of the specific rifles in question.

Personally, I think the XM8 is awesome and the SCAR is lame. See what I mean?

Mike
 
No. I dont see what you mean.

So by that same logic, most people who have little to no expirence driving a Ferrari or a Rolls Royce are not qualified to have an opinion on whether they are satified or not with their Toyota or Chevorlet?
 
The multi-position stock is a miracle when wearing an IBA. The decreased weight and awkwardness is wonderful. And while it's nice to hit popup targets at a half klick, the average engagement range in Iraq is 200 meters, and you are unlikely to engage and make hits with an M16 at 500 meters in Afghanistan. Civilian side, I think the increased use of carbines comes from a combination of wanting to have what military/LEOs use and the fact that civilian home defense does not require the ability to hit targets at long range, but may require maneuvering in tight spaces.
 
When I enter the AR club...someday...I am going for the 20" barrel, iron sights, carry handle, no (or few) rails, and full-sized fixed stock. I want an AR-15 rifle.

When I enter the semi-auto carbine club...M1 carbine will be the thing.

...but that's just me.
 
The great thing about the AR is that, with the addition of a carbine upper, you can have both. I built an M16a1 clone with a surplus Colt upper. I later added a used CAR A1 HBAR shorty upper I found cheap.
I may someday complete that second upper into a complete second rifle.
In any case, my CMP M1 carbine is my preferred HD longarm.
 
When I enter the AR club...someday...I am going for the 20" barrel, iron sights, carry handle, no (or few) rails, and full-sized fixed stock. I want an AR-15 rifle.

When I enter the semi-auto carbine club...M1 carbine will be the thing.
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(Your italics added for emphasis. )

Are you implying that a carbine is not a rifle?
 
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