Way back when I was experimenting with HBWC I tried some backwards. I loaded the a bit higher than my normal 3.0 gr. of Bullseye and shot them into wet newsprint at about 15'. My results were poor. Some skirts collapsed, some tore off, some cavities clogged with media and acted like poor solids, and a few opened. Very inconsistent results and results too poor to continue after 25-30 rounds. I went to a commercial Speer JHP and my own cast DEWC. Some reloaders reported good results with extreme expansion, but my loads in a 2" 38 Special were disappointing...