Question police ID, charged with crime?
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RevDisk
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I think Justin has a point. Perhaps the officer in question saw a coffee can inside her residence! More than enough cause to cite her or detain her if need be.
Standing Wolf
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For the cop's ego. If I were his chief, I'd have given him a last, final written warning—after tearing up the ticket and accompanying the cop to the old woman's house so he could apologize.
RevDisk
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Old timers tell me that's why they used to have woodsheds. So incidents like this could be handled behind one.
DSRUPTV
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I can't remember learning anywhere that a citizen had to talk to the police. OTOH, I was told that it would happen on a regular basis, and there is nothing the officer can do about it without some sort of justification. I also see no problem with the woman saying she was going to call to be sure the man was an officer. If I was old and living alone I would probably be suspicious of anyone coming to my door as well.
Aguila Blanca
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The officer was investigating a specific complaint, so I suppose he had a right to ask her (a neighbor) if she knew anything. However, she said "No."
Once she said "No," in the absence of any proof to the contrary, the contact should have ended. "He said you do," isn't proof of anything except what the neighbor told the cop.
Bad cop. No donuts for a month.
Once she said "No," in the absence of any proof to the contrary, the contact should have ended. "He said you do," isn't proof of anything except what the neighbor told the cop.
Bad cop. No donuts for a month.
DRZinn
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So if I just don't have enough information for you, you can cite me?
I don't think so.
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CAS700850
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We have a name for charges like this. POPO charges. Stands for Pissed Off Police Officer.
Our job as good prosecutors is to reject these charges, reprimand the officer, and make sure his or her superiors know about it. Do this once or twice, and the POPO charges stop coming across your desk. Did this yesterday for a detective who stacked the deck on a drug case because the guy ran, and the detective tore his suit pants climbing a fence. Wanted a child endangering charge because the bad guy ran from the stop, leaving a 3 year old child behind in a car seat. Of course, there were four officers there at the time...
Funny, around here, most of the officers are issued a photo ID. Sheriff's Department requires that the ID be displayed in a holder on the uniform. Policy also requires them to instruct a person to call 911 and verify the ID if there are any concerns. Sounds like what this lady did.
Our job as good prosecutors is to reject these charges, reprimand the officer, and make sure his or her superiors know about it. Do this once or twice, and the POPO charges stop coming across your desk. Did this yesterday for a detective who stacked the deck on a drug case because the guy ran, and the detective tore his suit pants climbing a fence. Wanted a child endangering charge because the bad guy ran from the stop, leaving a 3 year old child behind in a car seat. Of course, there were four officers there at the time...
Funny, around here, most of the officers are issued a photo ID. Sheriff's Department requires that the ID be displayed in a holder on the uniform. Policy also requires them to instruct a person to call 911 and verify the ID if there are any concerns. Sounds like what this lady did.
misANTHrope
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Update: RPD has voided the citation and will use the situation "in training sessions" in the future. I guess the public opinion went the wrong way for them.
http://www.wral.com/news/4784674/detail.html
http://www.wral.com/news/4784674/detail.html
RoyG
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Nice of the newspaper to identify her as living alone. Even gave her full name so anyone can look her up.
Why wasn't the police officer identified as well?
Why wasn't the police officer identified as well?
Molon Labe
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This is not correct. The Supreme Joke ruled to uphold any state law that requires you to identify yourself. If North Carolina does not have a law that requires a person to identify themselves, then she was under no legal obligation to do so.
Pilgrim
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More likely someone with a calmer viewpoint realized this case had no merit and chose to void the citation before things got worse.
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Molon Labe
Thanks, I didn't read the ruling, I just remember some of the popular media talking about it. It makes sense in that context, now how long do you think it will be before the States that don't have an ID law will enact job.
Can somebody say New York Minute
Thanks, I didn't read the ruling, I just remember some of the popular media talking about it. It makes sense in that context, now how long do you think it will be before the States that don't have an ID law will enact job.
Can somebody say New York Minute
TallPine
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Um, that might be the case legally.
All I know is what I have personally observed of the deputies in my area.
Actually, I think the LEOs are somewhat afraid of people around here. Virtually every household is armed, and it is legal to carry loaded guns in vehicles without a permit. This is somewhat of a weird county though - it has a reputation
OTOH, most everyone I know would back up a LEO who got in trouble on a legitimate duty.
spacemanspiff
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pshaawwwww! like, can't you all see this isn't important enough to even discuss! i mean, its not like they called in the feds to drive a tank through her home and set it and her family on fire.
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