Shrinkmd
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I was loading some Dardascastbullets.com .452 200 gr LSWC and I had some problems with the case mouth getting crushed and torn. I am using a Hornady LNL and Hornady dies. I have loaded about 500 230 LRN without any problems on the settings I was using for belling the case mouth.
With the 200 gr SWC bullet the seating stem with the open end got stuck on the lead bullet and actually got yanked out of the die past that little retaining clip. I then cleaned everything out, and replaced the stem with the completely flat one. Instead of getting stuck, however, several times the seater die got stuck, and when I pushed past the resistance I saw that the case mouth was torn a bit. By very carefully placing the bullet flush on top of the case mouth prior to seating, it improved (but did not eliminate) this problem.
I did not have time today to bell the case mouths a bit more (I am using the LNLPTX die, and not Hornady's ones, so I can easily adjust for more), which I am assuming will correct this problem. Has anyone had this happen to them before seating 45 cal semi-wadcutters? Am I making sense here?
Also, on a related note, what load data is correct for these bullets? On page 382 of the Lyman manual, 49th edition, #452460 lists 3.5 to 5.6 for Bullseye, and bullet #452630 lists 4.9 to 6.0 for Bullseye. The data on the second one is similar to Hornady's data for their 200 gr SWC (actually theirs goes a little higher) The manual lists a seating depth of 1.235 or so for these. Does that sound about right?
Then, Alliant's website lists a max of 4.6 of Bullseye with the Speer 200 LSWC. I have heard that the Speer bullets are soft lead, and that #2 Alloy bullets (the dardas are Brinnell Hardness 18-20, which are the same as #2 I believe) can be driven a bit harder.
Help! I enjoyed the 230 LRN bullets, but now I am moving on to something else and having lots of problems and questions...
Thanks!
With the 200 gr SWC bullet the seating stem with the open end got stuck on the lead bullet and actually got yanked out of the die past that little retaining clip. I then cleaned everything out, and replaced the stem with the completely flat one. Instead of getting stuck, however, several times the seater die got stuck, and when I pushed past the resistance I saw that the case mouth was torn a bit. By very carefully placing the bullet flush on top of the case mouth prior to seating, it improved (but did not eliminate) this problem.
I did not have time today to bell the case mouths a bit more (I am using the LNLPTX die, and not Hornady's ones, so I can easily adjust for more), which I am assuming will correct this problem. Has anyone had this happen to them before seating 45 cal semi-wadcutters? Am I making sense here?
Also, on a related note, what load data is correct for these bullets? On page 382 of the Lyman manual, 49th edition, #452460 lists 3.5 to 5.6 for Bullseye, and bullet #452630 lists 4.9 to 6.0 for Bullseye. The data on the second one is similar to Hornady's data for their 200 gr SWC (actually theirs goes a little higher) The manual lists a seating depth of 1.235 or so for these. Does that sound about right?
Then, Alliant's website lists a max of 4.6 of Bullseye with the Speer 200 LSWC. I have heard that the Speer bullets are soft lead, and that #2 Alloy bullets (the dardas are Brinnell Hardness 18-20, which are the same as #2 I believe) can be driven a bit harder.
Help! I enjoyed the 230 LRN bullets, but now I am moving on to something else and having lots of problems and questions...
Thanks!