quick question - spongy striker triggers

[metalman8600]

I am thinking about selling my xd for a cz. The thing I don't like about the XD is that the grip makes the webbing part of my hand much higher than the tip of my trigger finger, which puts my trigger finger at quite a downward angle which is what I believe is making my loose much accuracy. Also I don't like the spongy trigger. I don't think you can get away from a spongy feeling trigger in a striker fired gun. Am I wrong? Is there any striker fired gun modern day gun that does not have a spongy plasticish feeling trigger, that also has the trigger inline with the webbing of the hand?

 

[gofastman]

I have shot a handfull of glocks, 1 XDM, and 1 XD45... they all have that strange, toy like trigger feel, I actually kind of like it now.

I dont think you can get a "glass rod break" in a SFA gun but im not 100% sure (I bet it would cost a lot of money)
I have a Ghost Tactical trigger connector, it felt great but i could never get the overtravel tab shaved right, I cut it off - more or less making it equal to their "patrol" model and put in a LWD trigger stop.
The combination of the more precisely made connector and the over travel stop make for a very clean break, but it still has that initial mushy take-up action.

Zev Tech makes some very fancy parts that are well regarded, perhaps that will give you the trigger action you are looking for:
http://www.glockwarehouse.com/Fulcrum_Ultimate_Kit_p/zt-ful-ult.htm

EDIT: oops forgot that you have an XD, not a Glock

 

[340PD]

Either will create a supurb trigger in your XD. If the grip is your problem they may have a solution also.

http://www.springerprecision.com/

http://powderriverprecision.com/

Trainloads of satisified customers from both company's output.

 

[Sam1911]

Fortunately, yes, you are wrong!

The shops 340PD pointed out will sell you parts you can drop in yourself to give you a trigger pull that will rival a quality 1911.

It will take more work to get a pleasant trigger pull on a CZ.

As for the grip, you always want the highest grip possible. Lowering the gun as far down into your hand as you can makes the recoil impulse act more straight back and will help your follow-up (split) times.

From your explanation of your concerns there, it sounds like you could use some good coaching on technique. The xD's ergonomics aren't to fault for your inaccuracy.

 

[metalman8600]

I know a high grip is good, but look at where the webbing of your hand goes on a XD compared to a CZ, 1911, M&P, Taurus 24/7. On the XD/XDm that spot is significantly higher than than the middle of the trigger, making my finger go slightly down, plus it is more blocky. With a 1911 I can hit exactly where I am aiming at 45 ft away, with the XDm I am lucky to hit the paper.

 

[Sam1911]

I own and compete with several of the guns on your list. Never had any concern whatsoever with the elevation difference you're noticing. Some of mine have been modified to sit lower in the hand than they came from the factory, too. The trigger finger going pointing slightly downward is an unnoticeable non-issue. (For me, of course.)

If you can barely hit paper with an xD or xDM at 15 yds. then that is not a problem with the design of the gun. If your technique is good and your grip, trigger control, and sight picture are adequate, you should be able to keep on the paper at 15 yards with any handgun made. I stand firmly by my recommendation that some good coaching is in order. Most of the time shooters buy new guns, accessories, and have modifications done to solve problems they think are holding them back -- when what they really need is good coaching and a few thousand rounds of ammo.

Having said that, not every gun just suits every shooter. Maybe the xD just isn't for you and something else will give you the feel and the confidence you need to improve.

I will advise that -- after many 10s of 1000s of rounds of practice and competition, and after various controlled tests of my own performance with the guns -- my xDM's trigger (unmodified factory) is much easier to achieve speed and accuracy with than my CZ-75's trigger (slightly modified).

So, if you're looking to buy a different gun to fix your accuracy problems, make sure you do a lot of testing first so you know exactly what you want and what you think it will do for you.

 

[ForumSurfer]

The xD's ergonomics aren't to fault for your inaccuracy.

I agree. I don't own an xd, but I shot a buddy's xd 40c. He complained about its horrible innaccuracy. I grabbed it, shot off a magazine at about 15 yards. I aimed for the head of the target since I had been shooting my new glock at the center. Much to my surprise, I shot a nice tight nose sized group with the xd. I'm actually less accurate with my glock, despite having never picked up an xd.

To each his own, though. If you don't like it, sell it. If you do like it, ask for help at the range and improve your technique. You'll find that the xd is very, very accurate.

 

[Inspiribomb]

I felt the same way about the XD's that I have owned. I installed a springer precision kit, mirror polished the sear and mating surface on the striker, and now have an outstanding trigger. My step dad and brothers were amazed by the improvement and did the same to their XD's.

 

[schmeky]

It will take more work to get a pleasant trigger pull on a CZ.

Depends on how you define more work. The CZ Competition hammer drops in; the only drawback is having to reduce the height of the safety leg on the sear. Once done, it will rival, and in some cases, equal a 1911 as far as a crisp release is concerned.

Competition hammer is $60.00.

On the XD, the trigger can be tweeked to exceed a Glock fairly easily. I am nearly finished doing a home trigger job on my XD45T. So far I've spent $20.00 and the trigger pull is only a spring change away from being excellent (another $20.00).

Go to the XD Forum in the Gunsmith Topic.