G43 trigger ?

[Valkydude]

Just got a G43, for CC, really like the "In The Hand Feel" . Put a Overwatch trigger in it, done away with pre- travel, that feels much, much better. Need some suggestions: I would like to lower my trigger pull from 5.5 to 3 lb. & make the release crisper & more precise, kind a like my Bill Wilson 1911's, PPKS, by Walther, or even my S&W D/A revolvers. Not too happy with what I read about Ghost connectors, which one ?, have no idea, they make a bunch of them. I see complaints about a spongy feeling, don't want to go there. Before I go to my Glock Man to talk about this, I would like to get some idea as to what U think. THX

 

[CZ9shooter]

You just compared a striker fired plastic pistol to a bunch of all metal hammer fired guns. This is an extreme case of "apples to oranges" if you ask me.

A Glock trigger will never be comparable to a decent 1911.

For a carry gun? I'd stop where you are.

 

[Valkydude]

You just compared a striker fired plastic pistol to a bunch of all metal hammer fired guns. This is an extreme case of "apples to oranges" if you ask me.

A Glock trigger will never be comparable to a decent 1911.

For a carry gun? I'd stop where you are.

I'm sure your right. My Glock repair man's personal g19 is premo. (but nothing like my Bill Wilson) I need to see what he has done to his & go from there. THX CZ9

 

[rskent]

I would like to get some idea as to what U think.

What I think is that the G43 and G42 have small grips. Even with my short fat fingers I can get enough trigger to get a straight back trigger press. Even with the heavy stock trigger they are very accurate for me. So, for me, stock is the way to go.
I also don’t care for Ghost connectors. They seem to remove the “wall” which I happen to like. And to my finger, it seems that the lower the trigger weight the mushier and less precise.

A Glock trigger will never be comparable to a decent 1911.

But possibly a high end staple gun.

For a carry gun? I'd stop where you are.

Me too, except sights.

 

[Captain33036]

Have had several Glocks, and modded nearly all of them, over some years. It is easy to do, since there is so much after market support.
You can get a Glock trigger to do just about anything you want to, lighten the pull, reduce pre and over travel.
UNFORTUNATELY.....anything (and probably everything) you do reduces reliability. In fact, you can mod a Glock to the point where it fails more than not.

One of the main ways to reduce trigger pull, is to put in a lower power striker spring. Well.....that greatly reduces the ability of that striker to ignite a primer. There are many connectors. If you go too far in getting one that reduces over travel....you can cause the gun to fail to reset. Even very popular after marker triggers can do this.

I no longer have any Glocks. I now have a SIG 220 for home defense. Great, out of the box. No mods needed.

Just my 0.02.

 

[Valkydude]

What I think is that the G43 and G42 have small grips. Even with my short fat fingers I can get enough trigger to get a straight back trigger press. Even with the heavy stock trigger they are very accurate for me. So, for me, stock is the way to go.
I also don’t care for Ghost connectors. They seem to remove the “wall” which I happen to like. And to my finger, it seems that the lower the trigger weight the mushier and less precise.


But possibly a high end staple gun.


Me too, except sights.

A G19, U ain't wrong. Nice CC.

 

[JTQ]

Just a data point, but a thread that may be worth reading...

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/warning-for-zevtech-glock-owners.822392/

 

[kokapelli]

A three pound trigger without a safety!

 

[jmr40]

A Glock trigger will never be comparable to a decent 1911.

A factory Glock has a 5.5 lb trigger that after a short amount of take up is very crisp. Most factory 1911's come from the factory with a 5-6 lb trigger that needs some work. Out of the box a typical 1911 and factory Glock are almost identical.

A 1911 from the factory set up as a target pistol, or one that has been worked on is in a different league.

 

[Valkydude]

A three pound trigger without a safety. "good point"

 

[Mot45acp]

My G43 claimed to have a 4.5-5.5lbs trigger like all my other Glocks. This was not the case. I don't have a trigger gauge, but it was easily double my stock Glocks, mushy and gritty.. A combination of Ghost connector and the 25 cent trigger job got it down to a stock Glock, but with a little bit cleaner break. Not too light, and still safe to carry.

Eta: it was the Ghost Edge connector.

 

[rskent]

Out of the box a typical 1911 and factory Glock are almost identical.

I guess your trigger finger is a lot different than mine.

 

[Hokkmike]

A three pound trigger without a safety!

That's kind of what I was thinking........

 

[W.R.Buchanan]

Put the stock parts back in it and go to Front Sight and learn to shoot the gun. Then practice.

A Glock is a Tool,,, not a 1911.

How many mods have you done to your Crescent Wrench or Framing Hammer?

Randy

 

[Rubber_Duck]

I used to have a Glock 42 with a 9 lb trigger. I put the Ghost Edge G42/43 connector in it and it made my abilities with the tiny gun go from non-existent to being confident about accurately hitting anything within 20 yards.

I no longer have the G42 but I now have a G19 with a Ghost Edge 3.5 connector, and a G21 with a Lone Wolf 3.5 connector.

 

[DT Guy]

Put the stock parts back in it and go to Front Sight and learn to shoot the gun. Then practice.

A Glock is a Tool,,, not a 1911.

How many mods have you done to your Crescent Wrench or Framing Hammer?

Randy

How often will your speed and accuracy with your framing hammer determine whether you live or die?

'Sights you can see and a trigger you can shoot' were Col. Cooper's recommendations for a carry gun's modifications; I'm fairly certain he'd practiced a bit. Although I'm pretty sure he DIDN'T attend 'Front Sight'....


Larry

 

[W.R.Buchanan]

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How often will your speed and accuracy with your framing hammer determine whether you live or die?

Bout as often as you need your gun to do the same thing. Kind of long odds on getting into a gunfight nowadays. but not impossible

'Sights you can see and a trigger you can shoot' were Col. Cooper's recommendations for a carry gun's modifications; I'm fairly certain he'd practiced a bit. Although I'm pretty sure he DIDN'T attend 'Front Sight'....

Maybe not but Cooper's number one protégé, Brad Ackman, actually runs Front Sight. So his influence is there none the less.

Glocks tend to wear in really nicely if you shoot them about 600-800 times. That's about how many rounds you'll shoot in a 4 day Defensive Handgun Course. This also helps you actually learn the trigger which will never be like a 1911 but is completely usable if you try hard enough.

Randy

 

[L-2]

Just for info after reading the posts in this thread, in June 2016, Glock came out with its #33564 connector, reducing the trigger pull on the G42/G43 models to an average 5.5#. Prior to that, Glock'd delivered G42/43 models had ~7 pound pull using the now discontinued #33215 connector. Those who didn't know will only remember the G42/43 models having a heavy pull. The Ghost "Edge" connector was the go-to connector until Glock began installing the #33564 connector and sending the #33564 out to Armorers to replace the older connectors upon request by the Armorer free-of-charge.

As finding a Glock Armorer may be difficult for some folks, the Ghost "Edge" connector made for the G42/43 feels virtually identical should it be easier for someone to buy a Ghost connector and install it should one know how to do so. There are some suppliers which will also sell the Glock-brand #33564 connector but Glock typically won't send this connector to someone who isn't a Certified Glock Armorer.

Getting a G43's trigger pull lower is beyond my knowledge/experience, but others may have done so and may comment with their experience.

 

[9mmepiphany]

Maybe not but Cooper's number one protégé, Brad Ackman, actually runs Front Sight.

I thought Chuck Taylor was Cooper's #1 protege. He used to refer to Taylor as the "Finest Combat Shooter" he had ever seen.
Taylor trained Ignatius Piazza, who founded Front Sight

I believe Ackman was the Operations Manager from 2002 until he left in 2009. Was he Operations Manager from 1998 before they moved to NV in 2002?

 

[JohnKSa]

Need some suggestions: I would like to lower my trigger pull from 5.5 to 3 lb. & make the release crisper & more precise, kind a like my Bill Wilson 1911's, PPKS, by Walther, or even my S&W D/A revolvers.

My suggestion is that you get a different carry gun. If you want a carry gun with an SA trigger then buy a carry gun with an SA trigger.

 

[rskent]

ust for info after reading the posts in this thread, in June 2016, Glock came out with its #33564 connector, reducing the trigger pull on the G42/G43 models to an average 5.5#. Prior to that, Glock'd delivered G42/43 models had ~7 pound pull using the now discontinued #33215 connector. Those who didn't know will only remember the G42/43 models having a heavy pull. The Ghost "Edge" connector was the go-to connector until Glock began installing the #33564 connector and sending the #33564 out to Armorers to replace the older connectors upon request by the Armorer free-of-charge.

My 42 and 43 have about 6 ½ # trigger pulls with the new connector. With the old connector, the 42 was about 8 ½ #. The 43 about 7 ½ # pull. They both shoot straight for me so I won’t be looking for a lighter trigger pull.

I put Glock night sights on the 42. Need to order some for the 43.

“A trigger that you can manage and sights you can see” Hmm.

 

[W.R.Buchanan]

We joined FS in 2002 and Brad Ackman was the ops manager at that time. He still is and I talk to him just about everytime we go. I was just there in May of this year.

Brad wrote a book about his time at Gunsite and he was definitely Coopers Favorite. I also heard that from Ed Head.

Cooper was kind of bummed out when Brad left , but he never wished him bad. When you love someone like a son it just doesn't go away very easily.

Right now Front Sight is running more than 80,000 people a year thru classes. They have expanded tremendously in the last year, and the place is getting built out. Hotels and stuff like that is coming soon.

Trumps sons both have been there and Piazza is pretty proud of his pic with Trump.

Randy