"Radically Invasive Projectiles" (RIP) -- good or bad idea?

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A company called G2 Research has developed and is marketing a new kind of bullet they call a "Radically Invasive Projectile" (RIP). This shatters upon impact more effectively than a hollow point.

http://rare.us/story/this-is-the-la...ed-watch-and-see-the-technology-for-yourself/

The gun control crowd is going hysterical over this. Is it really the deadly breakthrough that both sides are suggesting? Is it hype? Does it serve enough of a legitimate purpose to offset the possible deadly consequences in accidental shootings?
 
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The same round & firm was discussed at length a few months ago. :rolleyes:
The overall remarks were highly skeptical. It sounds ideal for personal defense but the specs & ballistics don't seem to match the hype.

The company has now added a .380acp round too for all the PPK/Glock 42 owners. :D

I also read a post that these RIP rounds would be marketed by DRT; www.drtammo.com . :uhoh:
I still haven't seen any changes to the DRT line-up.
Overall, I think these exotic RIP 9mm loads will be like the failed ThunderZap, ExtremeShockUSA & LeMas.
 
Says it "defeats every major obstacle", so it must be pretty good. :)


What's that little automatic pistol that fellas using? I didnt get a good look,but I think it was a pistol. IDK, maybe he just shoots fast.


Horrible name though. Radically Invasive? Sounds like it's describing a bad trip to the doctor/surgical procedure.
 
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Sounds like marketing hype to me. They came up with "RIP" acronym, (implying "Rest in Peace", "RIP's" through flesh or "RIP's up the bad guys)...... and then needed a definition that fit the acronym.
 
Terrible idea. Gimmicky product, inferior to actual quality ammo, and facepalm marketing.
 
deadin said:
Sounds like marketing hype to me.
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......of course it is. Like fancy camo patterns on turkey guns and flashy graphics on bows and fishing poles. Odds are they are just as effective as those green tipped Zombie killin' bullets tho.;)
 
I don't know, these high speed low drag operators need the very latest bullet design to protect us from watermelons, concrete blocks and balloons.:rolleyes: If DRT is going to market it, I wonder it it will be marketed like their other stuff at first with the bikini clad models on the box. (As we all well know, all military and police issued ammunition HAS to have that. Part of the stock number I think...)
 
Magic bullets aren't, regardless of how cool or deadly sounding their name is or how flamboyantly they're marketed.

Handguns are relatively weak and ineffective weapons regardless of what they're loaded with.

Succeeding in a self-defense encounter is based primarily on factors having virtually nothing do with weapon or ammunition choice.
 
Unlike the full-metal jacket, which is designed to wound,
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No need to read past that point.

100% gimmick, made to empty the pockets of mall ninjas. Anyone worth their salt understands that a bullet works better when it doesn't come apart.
 
Firequest.com .....

It's marketed & sold on the www.Firequest.com website so you know it's high quality :scrutiny:

As posted here & on a few other places in the last 4/6 months, these RIP handgun rounds leave a lot to be desired.
They may get more supporters or users(cops, corrections, EP or bail enforcement agents, security guards) if they had factory ammunition to sell. :rolleyes:
The RIPs seem out of stock or on back-order.
SGammo.com sold them but is never in stock. :uhoh:
I did see a few boxes of .380acp RIPs for around $50.00 USD for 20rds. :mad:
Yeah, good luck with that RIP.
I think GIP may be a better label. :D

Rusty
 
Shoulda named it the "POWDER PUFF" or the "Cotton Candy"

Like the Horribly Deadly "Black Talon" changed colors and is still being produced today....the anti gun crowd is too stupid to figure it out.

They are more concerned with a name than the actual physics of the bullet itself!
 
When you take away all the hype it sounds interesting, I just personally wouldn't want to be standing before a judge and jury after a defensive shooting explaining my choice of RIP ammo.
 
I have been down-talking them for months on Facebook. The rest of the industry has been seeking creative new ways to make sure the bullet and jacket don't separate. A bullet will penetrate further if it retains mass. If you split it into pieces, they won't be as likely to penetrate. So, I don't see how a bullet that is designed to shatter on impact is a good thing. I'm sure we will see them for sale at the gun shows as a novelty next to the Black Talons and Extreme Shock ammo.
 
I'll wait a bit and see what independent ammo testers think of it. But it does look interesting.

As far a standing in front of a jury or judge, around here, if it is a good shoot, no problem. I do understand that may be a problem in less civilized parts of the country.
 
My neck o' the woods.....

In my metro area & pretty much the whole state, if you have a use of force event & you are a MAM(military age male, 18-65) with a CCW, you get the label; wanna-be-cop and must explain/defend your actions. :mad:
It's best if you are on your own property, have CCTVs/security systems to support your claims-statements-acts or you have a lot of $$$/political connections.
Sad, but that's the US criminal justice system at work. :(

Rusty
 
Glazer, MagSafe, Black Rino, Black Talon, and I'm sure there are more. Marketing Department fantasy?
Placement, penetration and weight retention seems to me to be the tell all for HD/SD ammunition.
 
If its a stand your ground state and was ruled a good shoot by police . Why should their be a problem. No need for judge or jury. Unless you screwed up. :what:
 
It's a gimmick and not worth the money.

Third party testing has been able to replicate the wound channels (depth & penetration) of 9mm RIP ammo with .22LR segmented HP ammo.

So, if you want to have your 9mm have the same effectiveness as a .22LR, go ahead and use it.
 
As far a standing in front of a jury or judge, around here, if it is a good shoot, no problem.
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I've only been in the legal field for a few years now but one thing I learned very quickly is that you NEVER know exactly how a jury will go. You may think you do, but you're fooling yourself. This is the voice of experience, not just saying what I think should be the case.

As for the OP, it's a marketing gimmick. It won't do a thing a quality JHP won't do for 1/5 of the money.
 
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Arkansas Paul:

I've sat and thought about this thread, well, several times. I think you are exactly correct. What would a jury say about using a "radical" ammunition option.

Not only does this ammunition not interest me, I flat-out would not even purchase it, let alone carry it.

JMHO,

Geno
 
A long time ago, someone told something that is regarded as a maxim in the fishing lure industry:
"You see those lures painted up with flourescent paint, gold plating, and so on? They aren't designed to snag the fish...they are designed to snag the fisherman."
 
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