vanfunk
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Howdy,
I just got back from the range and thought I'd share my experience. I took along a friend from work who'd never shot a gun in his life - his comments were interesting. Anyway, here's the lowdown:
Colt MT6400C "M4" - 300 rounds SA battlepack 5.56mm. No malfunctions.
This carbine continues to run like the Dickens. I've given it only the lazy man's cleaning routine - a boresnake now and then and a few drops of CLP - with no malfunctions ever (2600 rounds). Accuracy averaged 2.5 inches for 10 shot groups at 100 yards. The gun shoots better in steadier hands but that's as good as I can shoot without optics. My friend liked the M4 the best. What's not to like? Negligible recoil, lovely accuracy, utterly reliable. We had alot of fun plinking at detergent bottles and clay pidgeons.
SAR-1 - 80 rounds of Wolf 123 gr FMJ. No malfunctions. Accuracy averaged 5 inches for 10 shot groups at 100 yards. Bad trigger slap (easily remedied, I know, I'm just lazy). Absolute murder on the detergent bottle, less so on the White Flyers. The least favorite gun in the bunch for my friend due to poor ergonomics, uncomfortable cheek weld, trigger slap, sights and relatively poor accuracy. I concur. Why do I still own this thing?
PTR-91 (G3 clone) - 220 rounds of Santa Barbara surplus. No malfunctions. Superb accuracy with open sights, very low recoil for a 7.62X51 (lower than my M1A, IMO). Devastating to detergent bottle and clay pigeons. 2 - 2.5 inch groups at 100 - the best I can do with anything. The PTR has been a marvelous weapon in all respects so far, with no malfunctions and excellent accuracy.
CZ 452 trainer .22LR - no malfunctions through 200 rounds of Blazer. Will break White Flyers at 100 yards. Easy 2 inch groups at 100 yards with open sights. Definitely the best $200 I've ever spent on a gun. Friend thought it was fun, but pronounced it "just a .22" after the chest-thumping bravado of the PTR-91.
1777 .69 caliber Charleville musket reproduction - 3 malfunctions (blunt flint). Put 25 balls downrange in the flinter - there's just nothing like a good smoothie and the sound of that big ball thwacking the berm. Friend was put off by the flash in the pan but liked the cloud of smoke and the low rumbling thunder of its report. Managed 12" groups at 50 yards, not bad for government work in the 18th century. Clays and detergent bottle were completely safe during the musketry exercise. I wavered and sent a ball through the wooden target stand with horrific results - it pretty much blasted the 2x4 frame in half
. Great fun.
Also lobbed a bunch of lead slugs down the 100 yard range with ol' slabsides, my '43 Remington Rand. The old girl has sent 125000 rounds on their merry way and has only broken a firing pin. Did very well on the detergent bottle (what was left) and fair-to-middlin' on the clays. It feels a bit like artillery practice at 100 yards
. Oh, yes, 12" groups at 100.
That's all folks! Thanks for listening...
vanfunk
I just got back from the range and thought I'd share my experience. I took along a friend from work who'd never shot a gun in his life - his comments were interesting. Anyway, here's the lowdown:
Colt MT6400C "M4" - 300 rounds SA battlepack 5.56mm. No malfunctions.
This carbine continues to run like the Dickens. I've given it only the lazy man's cleaning routine - a boresnake now and then and a few drops of CLP - with no malfunctions ever (2600 rounds). Accuracy averaged 2.5 inches for 10 shot groups at 100 yards. The gun shoots better in steadier hands but that's as good as I can shoot without optics. My friend liked the M4 the best. What's not to like? Negligible recoil, lovely accuracy, utterly reliable. We had alot of fun plinking at detergent bottles and clay pidgeons.
SAR-1 - 80 rounds of Wolf 123 gr FMJ. No malfunctions. Accuracy averaged 5 inches for 10 shot groups at 100 yards. Bad trigger slap (easily remedied, I know, I'm just lazy). Absolute murder on the detergent bottle, less so on the White Flyers. The least favorite gun in the bunch for my friend due to poor ergonomics, uncomfortable cheek weld, trigger slap, sights and relatively poor accuracy. I concur. Why do I still own this thing?
PTR-91 (G3 clone) - 220 rounds of Santa Barbara surplus. No malfunctions. Superb accuracy with open sights, very low recoil for a 7.62X51 (lower than my M1A, IMO). Devastating to detergent bottle and clay pigeons. 2 - 2.5 inch groups at 100 - the best I can do with anything. The PTR has been a marvelous weapon in all respects so far, with no malfunctions and excellent accuracy.
CZ 452 trainer .22LR - no malfunctions through 200 rounds of Blazer. Will break White Flyers at 100 yards. Easy 2 inch groups at 100 yards with open sights. Definitely the best $200 I've ever spent on a gun. Friend thought it was fun, but pronounced it "just a .22" after the chest-thumping bravado of the PTR-91.
1777 .69 caliber Charleville musket reproduction - 3 malfunctions (blunt flint). Put 25 balls downrange in the flinter - there's just nothing like a good smoothie and the sound of that big ball thwacking the berm. Friend was put off by the flash in the pan but liked the cloud of smoke and the low rumbling thunder of its report. Managed 12" groups at 50 yards, not bad for government work in the 18th century. Clays and detergent bottle were completely safe during the musketry exercise. I wavered and sent a ball through the wooden target stand with horrific results - it pretty much blasted the 2x4 frame in half
. Great fun.Also lobbed a bunch of lead slugs down the 100 yard range with ol' slabsides, my '43 Remington Rand. The old girl has sent 125000 rounds on their merry way and has only broken a firing pin. Did very well on the detergent bottle (what was left) and fair-to-middlin' on the clays. It feels a bit like artillery practice at 100 yards
. Oh, yes, 12" groups at 100. That's all folks! Thanks for listening...
vanfunk
