Range report Browning 1911-380, S&W 380EZ and Glock19

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MrsChicken has had a major shoulder injury and carpal tunnel in the last four years. She has not and is not likely to make anything near a full recovery. She has not fired a shot since the shoulder injury.

This is why I started looking at 380's as a serious option for a CCW and home defense. Her CCW and HD pistol is a G19. I bought the Browning 1911-380 a couple of months ago and put a couple hundred rounds through it, the S&W 380EZ yesterday. All three functioned perfectly for me.

The G19, She can't rack the slide. It had a failure to feed about every other shot. No-go on her Glock. She couldn't clear the malfunctions because she couldn't rack the slide. She says that she judges the G19 has 40% more recoil than the 380EZ and 1911-380. My observation is that the G19 was doubling the muzzle rise of the other two.

The 380EZ, as the name says, EZ... She said it was easy to load the magazine, easy to rack the slide, easy to shoot. She had a few last round stove pipes of the last round with one magazine only. She could clear these malfunctions easily.

The Browning 1911-380, she couldn't fully load the magazine. Slide is as easy to rack as the 380EZ. As easy to shoot as the 380EZ. No malfunctions. Most accurate of the three for her.

My perspective on all three. All three worked perfectly for me. I shot the G19 better, no surprise as I have put thousands and thousands of rounds through Glocks. More recoil with the G19 but a minimal difference to me, same with muzzle rise. No doubt the 380's shoot softer and I feel it but the 9mm isn't enough to make me slow down over a 380. I didn't run the timer and it might have shown few hundredths faster on a six shot string with one or the other but that would be about it. I shot the Browning better than the 380EZ but I also have more rounds through the Browning and a dozen hours plus of dry fire. For carry the Browning is so thin and light that it just disappears. We don't have a holster for the EZ yet but again it's light and thin. The G19 is very much thicker and with full mags in each much heavier. Heavier bullets and twice as many per mag add up.

The 380EZ is replacing the G19 for her as the G19 is essentially a single shot pistol for her after the injuries.
 
Why was the S&W 380 EZ chosen over the Browning 1911-380 ?
She can't fully load the Browning magazines on her own.
The accuracy difference is there but not enough to overcome the ease of loading the mags for the 380EZ.
She also says that if I didn't love the Browning so much she'd take that from me too!!!
 
I'm interested in both of these guns. I have heard some people say the little loading knobs on the EZ are uncomfortable to use and they use a loader instead.

There is a "thumbless" magazine loader for the Browning, but I'm not sure if it still requires an amount of force that would aggravate your wife's injuries.

The stove pipes would definitely bother me personally, it may be that her grip of the S&W is causing the stove pipes, but then again - it is not affecting the Browning.
 
I'm interested in both of these guns. I have heard some people say the little loading knobs on the EZ are uncomfortable to use and they use a loader instead.

There is a "thumbless" magazine loader for the Browning, but I'm not sure if it still requires an amount of force that would aggravate your wife's injuries.

The stove pipes would definitely bother me personally, it may be that her grip of the S&W is causing the stove pipes, but then again - it is not affecting the Browning.

Neither us had a problem with knobs on the magazine, she specifically said more than once how nice they were and how easy it was to load the magazine.I like the design of the wide flat basepad that gives it stability as you set the mag on a table and push down on the knobs. I saw that there are assist widgets that are like an open top hat that goes around the mag and gives you a larger surface to push down.

I'm pretty sure it was grip at fault as I ran several mags full through that one magazine without a failure. She may have been tiring out the muscles by then. OTOH, I did search on the 380 EZ and there was talk of this happening, most said it went away after a couple of hundred rounds. Having at one time spent a lot of time on the other side of the sales counter and as an instructor I look at those comments and think that most may just be the shooter learning to work the gun better and not as an actual parts break-in period. I think that if her grip strength improves (and it may not) so will that issue. In either case I'll be happy to run a few hundred rounds through it for her and break it in.

As for the loader for the Browning, ssshhh... I don't want her to take it from me. :)
 
my wife bought the 1911 22 black label, and then went on and bought the browning 380..... which is smaller then the 22.... she loves them both and shoots both of them spot on.... all her girl friends seem to enjoy shooting both of them as long as we provide the ammo. she has had a lot of fun introducing her girl friends to the shooting world..
 
my wife bought the 1911 22 black label, and then went on and bought the browning 380..... which is smaller then the 22.... she loves them both and shoots both of them spot on.... all her girl friends seem to enjoy shooting both of them as long as we provide the ammo. she has had a lot of fun introducing her girl friends to the shooting world..
I'm thinking of giving the local steel challenge match a try, getting a 1911-22 might be a good choice for me. More practice on the same platform, on the cheap.
 
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