Rather Impressed with Lee Precision

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A few years back I acquired some Lee molds and a casting pot, this past week I finally fired it up and cast my first bullets. Of the two molds, the 158 grain 38 6 cavity mold is ok...a little crusty, needs some new handles, probably had a small burr in one cavity, but drops usable bullets, the 452 RN 6 cavity is a lost cause I think. When closed there is a gap down the center and all the bullets are finned. I'll check to see if there's schmutz in the locating bushings or if it's just scrap. Either way, back to my point, I needed a new sprue lever, sprue handle and a couple of the shoulder screws from Lee. I ordered them on Wednesday, they only charged me for 1 of the shoulder screws ($.50) and shipping ($6.50).....and they're arriving today. Even in normal times that's pretty good, and in these extraordinary times...that's pretty darn impressive. Lee may not be the fanciest stuff out there, but I my experience, sure gets the job done, and I've had nothing but good experience with the customer service.:thumbup:
 
It is Lee that keeps the others at competitive prices. Kind of like cars. Lee is the Ford/Chevy for the common man at a reasonable price. Then there are the others that are like Lexus, Mercedes, and such. Those at the upper end would be the Tesla or in reloading Dillon.:) All will make decent and servicable ammo but depending on your needs some brands make more precision tools, thus the higher cost. I get it! I shoot 100 YDS or less mostly and the expensive stuff is not going to up my game by much IMHO. I have had excellent service from all Lee products and encourage others to try them. They are a great value at their price point I feel.:thumbup:
 
Lee reminds me of Hi Point. It may be a bit more crude than the others, but the price point is very affordable and they are reliable.

Any time either Lee or Hi Point is brought up you'll find 99% of actual owners are extremely happy, but you also have that 1% that had a bad experience. And then there's the snobs that never owned anything from either brand, but still bash them as pure crap.
 
I once tried to pay for a part from Lee. I emailed them, explained that I screwed up the part, all my fault and I wanted to pay for the part, and get a spare. Nope, I got the two parts in the mail in about a week, no charge, no shipping (small parts just in an envelope).

Sometimes I wonder when people are surprised at how well some Lee products work and their good customer service. Lee is the most innovative reloading tool/equipment manufacturer that sells a lot of products, and unlike many big companies, they have a very good reputation for good customer service. Maybe because the products aren't top dollar/higher cost, some expect everything about Lee to be inferior?

Confession here (OMG!). But I actually own a Hi-Point. It's a 45 ACP carbine. I have fired only about 250-300 rounds through it and had only one "problem". I had to shorten some handloads .008"-,009" for a better fit in one of the magazines. I have fired factory 239 FMJ, cast 225 and 230 gr LRN, 230 gr. TC, and 200 LSWC, and some PCed cast. I have had no, as in zero, problems with function and the first time out I was getting 2" groups at about 25-30 yards from my "Just in Case" handloads (230 FMJ over Bullseye for 825-850 fps or so from my 1911). Fired some at about 75-80 yards and kept all rounds in the 9 ring of my silhouette targets. If my ownership of a low life Hi-Point ever got out, I'd be laughed out of the state...:rofl:
 
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It is polishing the apple to pile on how good of a company Lee is, but they have a pretty big market share in the industry because they are great value, not "cheap"
Lee and Dillon are the last in line to try to keep most of what they do U.S.A. Everyone else is getting all their castings and much of their other product from Asia and finishing/assembling here
 
Lee and Dillon are the last in line to try to keep most of what they do U.S.A. Everyone else is getting all their castings and much of their other product from Asia and finishing/assembling here


Worth patronizing for that reason alone. I use both.
 
Well truth to be known I purchased 6 Hi Point pistols after "O" said that we needed to get rid of cheap handguns. Wanted to keep them in business for the long haul. They are butt ugly, in a good way though and as accurate and reliable as a pistol costing 3 X as much. I like the You Tube torture tests that are on there. They blow them up and send them back to HP and get a new one in rreturn. If driving a bolt into the barrel and locking the slide on with a hose clamp before before pulling the trigger didn't destroy it completely what would?:what::p
Always buy US products when possible!:thumbup:
 
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I've only dealt with Lee a couple of times and both times I was treated well. Of the three I have dealt with (RCBS, Hornady and Lee) I would say Lee and RCBS are #1/2 and Hornady is a distant 3rd.
 
I have been satisfied with the majority of Lee products I have used.
Their presses are fine, in fact their turret presses are fantastic.
I love their handgun dies.
Their casting equipment is great. Where else can you get a 16 cavity buckshot mold for $50?

The only things I don't like of theirs are their beam scales and hand priming tools.
Everything else gets an A+ from me.
 
Most of my reloading equipment is from Lee, my buddy has Dillon equipment, my reloads are just as good as his, at half the cost...

I don't know if they are exactly as good, but they are probably close enough. But Lee will never match a Dillon or Hornady for the speed that they make their good ammo at.
But there are a lot of times that that just doesn't really matter.
 
I know I'm definitely more impressed than I should be. But I'm always a big fan of a company that stands behind their products, and people who do their jobs. Items arrived today as promised, to my door for less than $8.
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It's not even like these parts broke...I just bought them used and never had them to begin with. Although, they know what they're doing, I have a Lee 6 cavity mold on order and my 4 die set just arrived for 9mm. :D
 
I use a Lee Classic Cast turret press for my handgun loads and have had very good success with it. I have both Lee and RCBS dies and both work fine.
 
Lee has always ben good anytime I needed anything.
They sent free (-shipping) decap pins to replace ones I told them I mangled.
(forgot what brass it was GFL I think, flash holes were way off center, and I had the nut cranked down tight to deal with some extra stubborn crimped primers...)
 
Started on a humble Lee Single Stage. Years later it’s still in its original place on the bench next to the T7s that came later. Little Red still works like when it was new. The couple of times I used Lee Customer Service for replacement parts for the primer tray and arms it was STELLAR. Money well spent.
 
Being a carpenter/contractor for 45 years, I used a lot of tools, from all price points. Reloading equipment is just a bunch of tools. From my experience, for the most part, when buying tools, you get what you pay for, not only when it comes to the quality and durability of the tool, but the customer service that comes with it. Reloading equipment is no different. IMHO, Lee equipment is like the Grizzly brand of power tools. Like the store brand(Masterforce) at Menard's. Adequate enough. Thus, when I got into reloading I researched reviews and opinions from folks with many years of experience. That was several decades ago and at that time, I was steered away from Lee and directed towards equipment slightly more money, but of better quality and durability. Same philosophy I had with my carpentry and woodworking tools. Fast forward two decades or so and after buying my two sons .380 pistols for Christmas, I decided I would reload the few rounds they would put thru them. After hearing all the praise for Lee and not wanting to spend big bucks for dies that would get used very seldom, I gave Lee's 4 die set for .380 a try. Seemed nice enough quality wise and seemed to make quality ammo, and for 2/3 the price of anything else out there, I was satisfied. Till the boys took the ammo to the range and told me they were having issues with setback. Tried the push test with some of the ammo myself and it took virtually no effort to push the bullet back into the case. Figured maybe I had flared the cases too much. Pulled it all and tried again. After resizing I found I could seat bullets(many different varieties of quality bullets), by hand in the resized cases without flaring the case at all. This was with different varieties of once fired brass including Starline which I had no issues with when loaded the first time from the factory. Thinking I had a bad sizing die I contacted Lee and was told that I would have to send the die back on my dime for them to look at it. The I would have to pay to have the die shipped back to me. Then the rep told me they had a well known issue with their .380 sizing die and "certain" brands of brass and the solution was to buy their .380 "undersized" die for $29 plus tax and postage. About $40. Being cheaper than buying another brand of complete dies, and about what it would cost me to send the die back and forth and maybe not be the fix, I got it and it did indeed "solve" the issue with their standard sizing die. But, like the Grizzly or Masterforce tools, in the long run, I would have been better off to go with the better quality to start with. The cheaper price I paid was more than offset by "meh" customer service, and poor quality of their standard sizing die, and in the long run cost me significantly more than the quality dies.

Those folks of you that are happy with Lee products, praise them all you want. They are what they are. They will and do make decent ammo. Odds are they won't do it as easily or as quickly. From my single experience they don't save you any money and they don't stand behind their product. Being burned once is enough for me.
 
Buck 460 I own at least 20 sets of Lee dies and never had a problem with any of them other than busting a decapping rod or two in 30+ years. I had a bad set of Lyman dies in 22-250 that turned out to be a factory problem with the sizer. Took three trips back to get a replacment die finally cause it wasn't "bad enough". I will not cross Lyman off the list because of one issue, but that's just me. My .02
 
Every die I have requires a bit of "fiddling around" to make it work the way I want. I have dies from every manufacturer except Hornady. Some I bought but many were in boxes of reloading equipment from yard sales or trades. Some work better than others. The setup on my progressive presses reflect this fact. I uses what works and most times it is a combination of dies from different makers. I have noticed slight differences in dies from the same manufacturer. My decapping and sizing may be Lyman but the seating may be RCBS or Lee. It just depends on what works for me. FWIW there is no good reason why I have no Hornady dies....just don't. That's my two cents. Best wishes.
 
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