RCBS carbide dies for 9 mm Luger ?

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I just bought the PT 111 G2 Taurus , first time handgun owner.
It shoots nicely.
The 3 die set comes with 2 seater plugs , their cut to different depths where it touches the bullet when seating , but fmj and self defense 115 gr bullets really don't fit snug ( they teeter ) is this normal ?

I put the nose of the bullets in the cup part of the plugs just to see how it would work when it seats.

Thanks !
 
I decided yet, I compared to win fmj target and Hornady critical defense both 115 gr.
JB weld is a good idea !

Thanks !
 
I decided yet what???

I don't know what that means???

Again, what exact bullet brand and weight are you trying to seat??

rc
 
Oops ! I meant , I haven't decided yet.
The only components I have are the dies , no powder, primers and bullets.
I haven't been able to find the part numbers for these two seater plugs that came with this rcbs carbide die set to determine what bullets their designed for.
 
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Typically, one seating plug is for round nose and the other for semi wad cutter. Between the 2, I have never found a bullet that I could not seat. You might find it nice to add a separate taper crimp die to your set so you can seat and crimp in 2 operations.
 
"...bullets really don't fit snug..." There's no need for that. The seater plug is nothing more than a 'ram'. It has nothing whatever to do with seating depth. You'll find one is for RN's and the other for flat nosed bullets anyway.
"...they teeter..." Put on a tick more flare. Just enough for the bullet to sit in the case mouth.
 
I have same dies and use same type and weight of bullets , no problems. Give die a chance before you modify.
 
Sunray said:
"...bullets really don't fit snug..." There's no need for that. The seater plug is nothing more than a 'ram'. It has nothing whatever to do with seating depth. You'll find one is for RN's and the other for flat nosed bullets anyway.
"...they teeter..." Put on a tick more flare. Just enough for the bullet to sit in the case mouth.
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Thanks ! I hate to be a pain , but one is shallow and the other stem is deeper.
Which one for round nose and flat ?
 
The RN will be round inside. The other flat. Doesn't make a huge amount of difference which one you use. The bullet will seat just fine with either one. Only thing that happens is a cast RN bullet will have a wee flat bit on the nose. Or there might be a wee ring. That doesn't matter. The only part of a bullet that matters is the base.
 
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The RN will be round inside. The other flat. Doesn't make a huge amount of difference which one you use. The bullet will seat just fine with either one. Only thing that happens is a cast RN bullet will have a wee flat bit on the nose. Or there might be a wee ring. That doesn't matter. The only part of a bullet that matters is the base.
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Thank you !
 
LTH,

Bullet seating is typically done off the ogive (pronounced "o-jive") or curvature on the side of the bullet. The "flat" die, if you will, may seat the bullet off the flat at the top of the bullet but any curved bullet will seat off the ogive. The seating die is not supposed to perfectly fit the actual shape of the entire bullet.

After all, how can the die manufacturers possibly supply the right seating profile for ever bullet made? Skip the epoxy/ JB Weld, etc. That would limit you to only using bullets that perfectly fit that profile and even the bullet manufacturers themselves acknowledge variances in bullet tolerances so how do you figure that to be the answer. The bullet will seat properly with the supplied seating die if you have the proper case flare.

Keep it simple and get a good reloading guide like "The ABC's of Reloading." Follow the directions and stop trying to over-think everything.
 
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