re-barrel my Garand, loss of value
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Why do you think the barrel is causing early clip ejections?
I think your troubles with that problem would more likely be in the clip latch assembly. I would try replacing the clip latch spring first. Cheap (less than $10) and pretty easy to install. I had similar problems and replaced the spring and never had the problem again.
A barrel replacement on a Garand should only be done by a qualified 'smith. By the time it's done, it won't be cheap.
I think your troubles with that problem would more likely be in the clip latch assembly. I would try replacing the clip latch spring first. Cheap (less than $10) and pretty easy to install. I had similar problems and replaced the spring and never had the problem again.
A barrel replacement on a Garand should only be done by a qualified 'smith. By the time it's done, it won't be cheap.
I've replaced the clip latch spring, ejector spring and tip, Detailed stripped, cleaned and still wont eject spend rounds sometimes (if it didn't pop the clip out).
The shells that do come out have an "orange peel" look to them and one casing that jammed in the barrel, the ejector ripped part of the rim off. A buddy of mine thought the headspace is too great and the barrel was worn leading to the shells expanding in the bore. The muzzle erosion is swallowing a bullet up to the casing too.
I'm thinking of sending it to Fulton Armory for the tech exam, I'll let them replace anything they need to, which brings me back to "does a re-barrel reduce the value from it's current state?"
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Reamer
The shells that do come out have an "orange peel" look to them and one casing that jammed in the barrel, the ejector ripped part of the rim off. A buddy of mine thought the headspace is too great and the barrel was worn leading to the shells expanding in the bore. The muzzle erosion is swallowing a bullet up to the casing too.
I'm thinking of sending it to Fulton Armory for the tech exam, I'll let them replace anything they need to, which brings me back to "does a re-barrel reduce the value from it's current state?"
thanks
Reamer
No. The rifle has already been rebarreld once, so another rebarrel isn't going to do much to the value. It's not an "all original" rifle any more anyway.
Now granted, this rebarrel won't be part of the military history of the rifle, but if a good quality barrel is installed correctly the rifle will still retain it's value.
In my opinion the rifle probably has more value due to it's overall condition as a shooter then as a collector piece at this point.
YMMV.
Now granted, this rebarrel won't be part of the military history of the rifle, but if a good quality barrel is installed correctly the rifle will still retain it's value.
In my opinion the rifle probably has more value due to it's overall condition as a shooter then as a collector piece at this point.
YMMV.
45Badger
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What he said
W.E.G.
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Sounds like a gas issue to me.
As in TOO LITTLE GAS.
The bolt is partially extracting the hot case, and then ramming it back into the chamber.
Anytime you ram a fired case back into the chamber of a gas-operated semiauto rifle, the case is quite likely to become seized in the chamber.
Fix the gas issue, and you'll probably fix the extraction/ejection issue.
Alternatively, you may have a binding issue, which prevents the correct amount of gas from operating the mechanism in the correct manner.
Bent op rod?
+1 on Fulton being able to give the rifle a thorough going-over.
Fulton does really good Garand work, and their prices reflect it.
Spend what you have to to fix it, and don't fret about "collector value."
...or if you don't want to fix it, and you think it is so collectible, sell the problem to somebody else.
As in TOO LITTLE GAS.
The bolt is partially extracting the hot case, and then ramming it back into the chamber.
Anytime you ram a fired case back into the chamber of a gas-operated semiauto rifle, the case is quite likely to become seized in the chamber.
Fix the gas issue, and you'll probably fix the extraction/ejection issue.
Alternatively, you may have a binding issue, which prevents the correct amount of gas from operating the mechanism in the correct manner.
Bent op rod?
+1 on Fulton being able to give the rifle a thorough going-over.
Fulton does really good Garand work, and their prices reflect it.
Spend what you have to to fix it, and don't fret about "collector value."
...or if you don't want to fix it, and you think it is so collectible, sell the problem to somebody else.
30Cal
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It sounds like your chamber is pitted. That may cause extraction issues, but not partial clip ejection.
IMO, if the Garand is a mixmaster, it's value is based on how nice it looks and shoots. A new barrel would increase it's value.
IMO, if the Garand is a mixmaster, it's value is based on how nice it looks and shoots. A new barrel would increase it's value.
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hmm
The "orange peel" look and the extractor trying to rip the rim off might make me also think chamber could be pitted, can you see pitting? Can you post pics?
Also, I agree that putting a new barrel would not decrease value. Many, Many of these rifles have been rebarreled. It would be a plus.
The "orange peel" look and the extractor trying to rip the rim off might make me also think chamber could be pitted, can you see pitting? Can you post pics?
Also, I agree that putting a new barrel would not decrease value. Many, Many of these rifles have been rebarreled. It would be a plus.
If the extractor rips thru the rim, either too much gas pressure, or a pitted chamber. Without seeing or handling the weapon, sounds like the chamber is your problem.
I'd rebarrel in a second....with a Krieger barrel, if you got the cash.
I'd rebarrel in a second....with a Krieger barrel, if you got the cash.
30Cal
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Kind of a waste if the rifle isn't bedded, glued and screwed.
Swampy
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Reamer,
Question: What ammo are you shooting???
Best regards,
Swampy
Garands forever
Question: What ammo are you shooting???
Best regards,
Swampy
Garands forever
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