REAL percentage of DRT / bang-flops with shot to vitals

[LJH]

I voted 41-50. Using a 30-06 loaded to near max for my rifle. Slinging partitions on Texas Hill Country whitetails I still only see about 50% flop. This combo is way overkill and quite devastating to the insides. Even so, about half have gone quite a ways with nothing working in their clockworks.

And in response to rhoggman’s comment about hitting a deer in the spine and having it run, I too have seen a deer run after a spine shot.

 

[JWarren]

I'll be the first to say that I am lucky.

I've been hunting since I was 7 years old-- 30 years of hunting deer.

I've killed dozens at ranges from 35 yards to 400 yards. I have had exactly ZERO deer run off.

I've killed deer with the following calibers:

.30-06 (most of them)
.308 (several)-- this is my primary caliber now.
7.62x39 (one)


I don't think my experience is typical. BTW... when I say they don't run off, I mean that if they do walk, it is only a few steps at the most. I've had a few move SOME, but never to where I've had to trail them. I really don't consider 10 feet of movement significant.


-- John

 

[hossdaniels]

I've had better luck putting them drt with the large slow bullets on true no shoulder hit animals. My 270 and 30-06 only have two non shoulder hit drt's. On the other hand, with my .50 ml(not so slow but big, 300g@2300fps) and 44 mag 629, I would say about half of the deer dropped on the spot.

 

[stownsend]

This year I had my first DRT. I shot a buck at about 50 yards and he was facing me. Bullet traveled all the way through him and lodged under the skin in his backside after breaking the back leg near the hip. I didn't hit the spine, but he picked his feet up and fell over without another twitch. Shot with 300 win. mag. with 150 gr. Winchester XP3. Also shot a small doe and although she wasn't DRT, she didnt' take another step. Hit high in the vitals just barely missing the spine. She fell over and died just as I walked up on her.

 

[Newt]

Of all the deer I've killed, only one hit in the "vitals" (not CNS) was bang flop. It didn't die right away, but it did flop. After shooting, I left to go get a buddy and ATV. When I got back he was *still* alive. On the other hand, I've had several CNS (neck shots) that were DRT/bang flop. But since we're not counting those, I voted less than 10%.

 

[jbauch357]

Shot a deer at 40yds with a 30-06 loaded with 180gr nosler partitions and 60gr of RL22 behind it - good vitals hit but barely missed the heart. The deer ran about 40 more yards before dropping. When we got to it the bullet took three ribs out at the exit hole along with basically liquefying the lungs - when we turned the deer over the heart basically fell out the hole. All that damage and it still ran 40 yds.

Deer this year with factory loaded 30-06 180gr barnes-x at about 75 yds. First shot was in and out just above the heart, dropped it like a rock - but after 3-4 seconds of flopping it popped back up and started running. Quartering away from me shot it again, bullet entered mid torso and landed at the top of the neck turning the spine to mush - that time it dropped like a rock and didn't move again.

 

[mbt2001]

On deer I have a lot better track record than on hogs...

 

[txcookie]

I'll play.....

1 muzzle loader bang flop pig. Maxi ball .50 cal didn't even twitch

2 doe one from Iowa one from texas , dead before they hit the ground. Both using 30.06 150 grain.

Other than that some 40 critters from 250.savage to 270. Win and modern ml combos. They all required a bit of tracking. This thread makes me feel good again. I was beginning to think the 270 win was a punk...... even though it had killed every big game animal I have shot at. Cept a pig ,,, but that was allllllll me.

Other than that

 

[rodwha]

I've only had a hog planted. It wasn't dead, but it made no move as I broke both shoulders.

All of my deer had run maybe 25 yds and stopped. My old boss often talked about his animals dropping like a sack so we talked about that. Neck shots.

When I had a great rest and could keep it very steady I'd shoot the first third of the neck from the body as it moves the least. All DRT.

However I now have a .50 cal muzzleloader and I'm not sure if a ball traveling much slower than the 130 grn .270 Win bullets would create a similar hydrostatic shock, which is what I assume made the .270 so potent. I'm hesitant to do this.

 

[H&Hhunter]

Please tell me, somebody didn't just reanimate an 8 year old thread.................