Reasonable Gun Control?

[gunNoob]

If B becomes illegal, I don't have one

 

[JImbothefiveth]

Thanks cyberninja!

 

[JImbothefiveth]

Would the mods please change the one vote for "C" and change it to "D"???

who voted 'c'-both should be illegal?

I guess someone clicked the wrong button.

Oh, and if we're trying to guess why it's illegal, that's because it has too many features that certain politicians think are "evil"(bayonet, pistol grip, magazine that can hold greater than 10 rounds, could be others) for a rifle without the minimum number (or was it percent?) of parts manufactured in the U.S.. (Gun A is a saiga rifle made in Russia, and gun b is the same gun with the "evil" features.)

They are both semi-auto, and this is not reasonable gun control.

 

[3KillerBs]

I'd say that a person putting 9 shots out of 10 on the paper plate at 10 yards may not be exhibiting very good gun control but is probably exhibiting reasonable gun control.

That diagnostic target might help if that person wants to improve his/her gun control. LOL

 

[mljdeckard]

Just because politicians think some features are evil, that doesn't make the rifle illegal. The AWB expired in 2004.

 

[Duke Junior]

"Reasonable gun control" = oxymoron.

We have a winner!

 

[wally]

My point is made by the discussion so far.

Gun A violates Sec 922(r) as it has a 12 round magazine and all foreign parts. Gun B is 100% legal as it has the appropriate number of US made parts despite maximizing the number of "scary evil" features.

A is an unmodified Saiga .223, I slapped a Galil 12 round mag into it (no modifications required) and took the photo. Then I gutted it to put in the US made parts.

Would the gun actually work with the Galil magazine? Not unless you add a bullet guide (easily done with a bit of epoxy putty if you just need to empty a few mags for your nefarious purposes), but 922(r) doesn't say the gun has to actually work to be in violation!

An earlier post, asked the moderators to remove the C mistake and record it as the intended D vote.

I suspect if you post the photo and poll on a liberal web site, the C & D results would be reversed. You have my permission to do so with the photo if you like kicking hornets nests

--wally.

 

[Kind of Blued]

Well, this is the wrong place to "trick" people into answering ironically. Considering 922(r), either one of those could be legal or illegal. There isn't enough information in the photo to make anything more than a guess.

What might be even funnier is an old Winchester Trapper Carbine with a 14" barrel and a semi-auto Ma Deuce. One can be owned by anyone who can legally purchase a gun and the other can land you ______ years in prison without the proper papers...

Although I think some or all of the Trapper Carbines may have been exempt from the '34 NFA.

 

[dmxx9900]

I have 1B in the black configuration
one of these days I will buy a whole crate of M70's for me.

 

[TallPine]

Well, this is the wrong place to "trick" people into answering ironically. Considering 922(r), either one of those could be legal or illegal. There isn't enough information in the photo to make anything more than a guess.

Which is sorta the whole point ...

 

[paintballdude902]

I suspect if you post the photo and poll on a liberal web site, the C & D results would be reversed. You have my permission to do so with the photo if you like kicking hornets nests

whats a web site i do enjoy ticking people off

 

[grilledcheese]

I guess only in modern PC America would "reasonable gun control" be chosen before "reasonable criminal control".

Argh.



Jeffrey

 

[GeezerwithGuns]

The dork who just fired the shotgun without eye or ear protection should be illegal............

 

[p2000sk]

Child spanking and swift capital punishment ought to make a comeback.

 

[JImbothefiveth]

I got it wrong, gun A is the illegal one after all.

Wally, I think you've made an excellent point, showing how gun control targets what looks like any other autoloading hunting rifle, then showing what's allowed, for comparison.

 

[chris in va]

Heh. Wish I had seen this 'test' yesterday, would've won right off the bat. Pretty obvious the mag in the Saiga isn't factory.

 

[yokel]

Stereotypes are strange things. Painting simple, caricatured images of a people or a firearm, a stereotype is often the quickest - and most misleading -way a stranger is introduced to a particular culture or nation.

Such stereotypes create and reinforce prejudice, and they distort our politics.

Various myths, stereotypes and false beliefs that have arisen over the years regarding so-called assault weapons need to be dispelled so that the public can better understand the reality of the matter.

 

[Poor East Texan]

Looks like the ejected shotgun shell hit old Kerry in the face.

HeHeHe!

 

[22-rimfire]

I wouldn't be able to tell if one was illegal or not. Hence, they both should be legal.

Wally, I think you've made an excellent point, showing how gun control targets what looks like any other autoloading hunting rifle, then showing what's allowed, for comparison.

I just have to chuckle at this statement. You obviously don't hunt anywhere I do. But to each his own.

Polls like this are meaningless. The result was inevitable when posted on THR.

 

[zoom6zoom]

The problem with the term "reasonable" is that it is being defined by unreasonable people.

 

[moooose102]

i voted neither should be illegal. the only thing that should be RESTRICTED is full automatics, and military arms like cannons, rockets, grenades, bombs, morters, and very large projectiles/cartridges like tanks and warships fire. the real problem (as most of us already know) with "gun contol laws" is that it only applies to honest law abiding people anyway. the serious criminal is going to get whatever he wants, providing he has enough money and the right connections to get it. and to be point blank honest about it, most of us, given the oppertunity to own a full automatic weapon, would use it responsibly anyway. the biggest reason for our government to keep this type of weapon out of our hands is to keep us from trying to overthrow this corrupt ominus power in washington that they call "government".

 

[rojocorsa]

This "reasonable gun control" leads me to ask: Why do some politicians vote for measures that do not protect firearms manufacturers from frivolous lawsuits. HEY! How about we sue Ford every time someone is hurt in a traffic accident?!?!? This is stupid.

 

[Catherine]

There is NO such thing as 'reasonable gun CONTROL'. :banghead:

Gun control = CONTROL.

GUN and financial control = CONTROL.

Catherine
End the Fed!

 

[Diamondback6]

Actually, there is "reasonable gun control"--it entails:
1. Hit what you aim at.
2. Don't kill nobody who don't need killin'.

 

[Poor East Texan]

Words to live by Diamondback!