hexidismal
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For those of you who are not familiar with New York State laws ( Not NYC laws ) regarding the purchase of handguns, let me first do a quick preface. To purchase a handgun in NYS, one must first of course have a handgun permit to begin with. Upon buying a handgun from a dealer, that dealer must give you receipt of sale, but can not give you the handgun yet. One must first take the sales slip to their licensing division, who will in turn for a small fee add the handgun to the permit and provide the purchaser in a County dependent manner with a pick-up slip which must be taken back to the seller before the handgun may be fully transferred.
Now, it's the aforementioned "County dependent manner", which prompts this post. Depending on how gun friendly the county your permit is issued in is, greatly affects how quickly you may acquire your new handgun. Ulster County, which I live in, has until recently been known to be one of the more reasonable ones concerning RKBA. This was due to a good Sheriff's Department, and a good constitution friendly Judge. More recently however Judge Cavanaugh has been promoted, and is now up in Albany doing bigger things. Unfortunately there's a New one of both, Sherrif and Issuing Judge. As I understand it, it's more specifically the new judge which in a very short frame of time has made not only permits, but also purchases far more difficult for all local law abiding citizens.
Firstly, she has made it a requirement as part of the process of acquiring a pistol permit, that all applicants must be personally interviewed by appointment with the issuing judge. This of course makes the already long and expensive process, that much longer and more inconvenient. Not only that, New York being a "may issue" state, that leaves the judge, and a very anti-gun judge at that, a huge potential for discrimination. It seems highly likely that she may stop issuing new permits altogether to those not requiring them for professional use.
Secondly, and more applicable to me personally as a current permit holder, is that this judge has also already changed our county specific purchase process with no intention other than to make it more annoying. We Ulster County permit holders, until about 2 weeks ago, were able to get our pick-up slip ( as mentioned in the first paragraph ) right then and there at the licensing office upon bringing them a sales receipt from an FFL. This Judge though, has seen fit to make each individual handgun purchase require an issuing Judge's signature. And oh boy, it does get better... The amount of time the issuing judge has to sign a purchase slip seems at this point to be entirely indeterminate and unlimited ! No additional background checking or anything of the sort is done, so as I said it serves absolutely no purpose other than to grind the process of law abiding Ulster County residents buying handguns to a big red taped halt.
Very Angry,
- hexidismal
Now, it's the aforementioned "County dependent manner", which prompts this post. Depending on how gun friendly the county your permit is issued in is, greatly affects how quickly you may acquire your new handgun. Ulster County, which I live in, has until recently been known to be one of the more reasonable ones concerning RKBA. This was due to a good Sheriff's Department, and a good constitution friendly Judge. More recently however Judge Cavanaugh has been promoted, and is now up in Albany doing bigger things. Unfortunately there's a New one of both, Sherrif and Issuing Judge. As I understand it, it's more specifically the new judge which in a very short frame of time has made not only permits, but also purchases far more difficult for all local law abiding citizens.
Firstly, she has made it a requirement as part of the process of acquiring a pistol permit, that all applicants must be personally interviewed by appointment with the issuing judge. This of course makes the already long and expensive process, that much longer and more inconvenient. Not only that, New York being a "may issue" state, that leaves the judge, and a very anti-gun judge at that, a huge potential for discrimination. It seems highly likely that she may stop issuing new permits altogether to those not requiring them for professional use.
Secondly, and more applicable to me personally as a current permit holder, is that this judge has also already changed our county specific purchase process with no intention other than to make it more annoying. We Ulster County permit holders, until about 2 weeks ago, were able to get our pick-up slip ( as mentioned in the first paragraph ) right then and there at the licensing office upon bringing them a sales receipt from an FFL. This Judge though, has seen fit to make each individual handgun purchase require an issuing Judge's signature. And oh boy, it does get better... The amount of time the issuing judge has to sign a purchase slip seems at this point to be entirely indeterminate and unlimited ! No additional background checking or anything of the sort is done, so as I said it serves absolutely no purpose other than to grind the process of law abiding Ulster County residents buying handguns to a big red taped halt.
Very Angry,
- hexidismal
