Reloading beginner setup?

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I will soon begin reloading. What manual should I read before I begin? Will the kit I buy have suffice reading instructions to properly and safely reload? Also, what kit do you reccomend? I'm new to reloading, but want to finally begin. I will be initially be reloading .45 acp, and .308
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Will the kit I buy have suffice reading instructions to properly and safely reload?
No.


What manual should I read before I begin?
Lyman #49


...what kit do you reccomend? ... will be initially be reloading .45 acp, and .308
I would recommend any "O" type single stage press but Lee Classic Turret press is popular with many reloaders which can also be used in single stage mode. Both come in kits priced around $100-$200.
 
leafybug - may be worth your time to read the information in the Reloading Library of Wisdom sticky at the top of this forum.

FSreloading.com has the Lee Classic turret kit for just over $200, and it will provide you with all the basic equipment needed to get started. Totally agree with bds on recommending this as a first press.

The sticky will provide you with additional information on other equipment that you will have to purchase as time goes on. Besides the kit and the dies for your calibers of choice, the next purchases should include additional manuals, calipers, kinetic bullet puller.
 
Will the kit I buy have suffice reading instructions to properly and safely reload?

there are some kits that come with a reloading manual. the RCBS rockchucker supreme kit comes with a Speer manual that, when followed, would result in safe handloads.

this thread is made at least once a week on most reloading forums. read the stickies, search this forum and others, google, etc. the answers to most of your questions are out there waiting. do plenty of research and reading, and i'm sure you'll find reloading to be a fun, rewarding hobby.
 
If I bought a kit, would that have everything I needed besides powder, primers, bass ect..?
I would like to spend under 500 on a kit, but have heard lee doesn't make a very good product?
 
If I bought a kit, would that have everything I needed besides powder, primers, bass ect..?

obviously that would depend on what kit you buy.

read this: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=238214

and compare it to the items in the various kits out there.

I would like to spend under 500 on a kit, but have heard lee doesn't make a very good product?

so what's your question? is lee a bad product? that's a matter of opinion. can you get a kit for under $500 that isn't a Lee? certainly.

I like the look of the Lock-n-load auto progressive reloader.

ok
 
The FIRST thing you need to do is go to your local library and read the following books: Lee MODERN RELOADING 2nd ed (ignore all the BS about the Lee pot metal presses and warranty, both worthless in my experience), LYMAN #49 (new) or #48 (old), DBI METALLIC CARTRIDGE RELOADING 3ed ed. All use Lyman load data, but look at reloading differently. If the library doesn't have them, get them through the interlibrary loan system.

Next, a reloading "kit" generally has enough to get you started, but you will normally need dies, primers, powder, bullets, brass, etc. I do NOT recommend ANY low quality pot metal presses for ANY purpose, although many will tell you they have them and they are fine for THEIR use, which is undoubtly true. I actually USE my equipment and the older I get, the less money I have and the less I can afford junk. Low quality equipment might be cheap to start, but will need to be replaced quickly if used, turns out low quality reloads (I'm sure people will tell you their reloads are fine, and I'm sure for their uses they are, I just prefer my loads be more than "firecrackers" - "if it makes noise I'm happy"), and has no resale value. If a company has a so called "2 year warranty" (which they don't stand behind anyway), and every one else offers a LIFETIME warrany which they DO stand behind, that should be a tip off to you! Quality is remembered long aftter price is forgotten. I have never regretted buying quality!

A GOOD single stage press will last you a life time (I still have the RCBS ROCKCHUCKER I bought nearly 40 years ago) and will still be useful to you no matter what else you buy. I probably would nopt buy a progressive to start, but they can be used for "single stage" reloading if you want. Probably safer and easier to learn that way.

Good luck!
 
Lots of good advice already, especially doing a quick search on this daily asked topic. Lee makes good products at an affordable price point here in America and have been in business as long or longer than most other companies making reloading gear. That is not an accident.

There is a way to particpate in this hobby at all levels of budget, interest and need. For pistol shooters I do not hesitate to recommend the great Lee Classic auto-advancing turret press. But IMHO none of the USA companies are selling 'junk'. You generally trade $$$$$ for features or speed.
 
Really wish you would quit trashing up the threads. I see why you was band from other forms. If you would just drop the statement about pot metal it wouldn't be so bad. I know you hate Lee but your disinformation doesn't help these people & shows you have no idea what you are talking about. RCBS makes good presses also. I really like that little Partner aluminum press that I used for 15 years before upgradeing to a Lee aluminum press. The Lee has a wider bolt stance which really help sturdy the press. I run 3 different Lee presses & love them all but I also take time to learn my tools.
 
The most important reloading/handloading "tool" is a trustworthy mentor, someone who has experienced most of the pitfalls and who can physically show a new reloader how it's done, watch him/her try it, and help correct mistakes. Most of us didn't have that, but I for one wish I had. It would have saved me a lot of time and frustration dealing with some loads, especially lead.

My recommendation regarding equipment is start to modestly, on a single stage or perhaps a turret-style press. Choose a straight-walled cartridge, jacketed bullets, and the starting load of a mid-range burn rate powder for your first few projects. For handgun dies, choose those designed to work without the need for case lube. Minimize the number of specialized tools for case prep and the like until you confirm that you really need them.

And take all on-line advice with a grain of salt.
 
I'd highly recommend the book, "ABCs of Reloading" (I think it's Gun Digest book). Read it a bunch of times.

What calibers are you looking at? Handgun? Rifle? Both? Expected volume - do you shoot GSSF or similar matches regulary, etc.? These are all factors in the recommendations.

For a good kit for the Lee Classic Cast Turret, I'd suggest Kempf's Gun Shop. They have a great kit that has what you need, and leaves out what you don't (like that crappy Lee safety scale!).

Welcome to the addiction, er, hobby! BTW, your shooting volume will increase...
 
A friend of mine just bought a Rockchucker Supreme Kit...RCBS. Same press I have but I have a lot of other equipment..electric trimmer, etc. My friend spent part of a morning with me helping reload some .223, then read his manual..it made more sense to him after having some hands-on guidance. He then reloaded some on his own with his equipment and turned out some fine loads. Now he wants to go shopping to buy some different equipment. The RCBS is a very nice kit and the equipment will last for many years. I guarantee you will buy more equipment as you learn, but that ios the fun of it. Right now I am schemeing on buying a Giraude trimmer. It is expensive, but sure makes trimming a breeze.
 
Honestly, all the information you need is on the internet, between a good reloading forum and manufacturer's online loading data. I almost the entire ABC's of reloading, and it hasn't revealed a single useful piece of information that I didn't already know, as well as containing some incorrect or at least misleading information. And it's boring.

If you are interested enough in reloading and have a computer, the knowledge is already out there. Flame shield on.
 
I'd like to make my purchase online tonight. I think I know everything I need. Please let me know if I'm missing something.
Reloading manual
Either Lee Breech Lock Challenger kit / or Lee Breech Lock Challenger 50th annaversary kit. (difference)?
Calipers
Bullet puller
Dies
-bullets, powder ect...
Am I missing anything?
 
You will need a trimming system for your rifle cartridges. Lots of good ones on the market but the Lee system is reasonably cost effective and cuts reasonably uniformly.

You will need the cutter and case stud (one package, good for all cartridges) and the trimmer case holder/case gauge (second package and cartridge specific).

You will also need a deburr/chamfer tool to clean up the case mouths after trimming.

As long as the kit includes the press, a scale, and a powder measure, you should be good to go.

The kit should have a manual in it, I assume (you know what they say about assume), but I would still buy another, like Lyman #49. Even though the instructional information covers the same stuff, they are presented slightly differently. Sometimes it makes it easier to understand.

Also, the loading data will vary a little bit between the manuals. Somewhat perplexing to the beginner. More manuals adds more bullet shapes and provides a range of loads that the beginner can be confident that they will be safe. Just remember, this does not replace proper load development though.

Enjoy your new hobby.
 
I would wait until I looked through my manual before I made a decision about the components, with the exception of brass.
 
Why do you say that, IlikeSA?
And just to be clear, I do plan on reading and researching before I begin to reload, but I would just like to get my setup ready as soon as I can.
 
NOTE: To use the case cutter and lock stud, a specific shell holder and case-length gauge is required for each caliber to be trimmed.

as long as you don't need to trim, it has everything

except a caliper

and a manual

and dies
 
Research.

My opinion, you are not ready to make an informed purchase. If your press is well matched to your needs it will be as much by luck as by planning.

Sorry to come late to the party and sorry to seem less than "gung-ho" encouraging.

If I knew how much shooting of your 45 and 308 you do, and what your shooting goals are, I could suggest whether a progressive is even a good idea. Progressive, auto-indexing turret, regular turret or single stage each have their strengths and weaknesses that will either fit your needs well or not.

I won't bore you with details too late to assist you. I will revisit the thread later tonight. If you decide to hold your purchase until you can put deeper thought into it I will post some links to advice I think helpful. If you describe your shooting purposes and future plans all of us will be able to target our advice better.

I know how hard it is to hold back once you have decided to take the plunge.

Lost Sheep
 
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I'm a fan of Lee products EXCEPT for their Breach-Lock products. I feel it's an added expense since you need a breach plug for every die you use.

If you're going to buy a Lee single stage press buy the Classic Cast press. BUT, I agree you just might want to wait until you become more informed so you don't have to buy twice. Since you are loading for the .308 and .45 Auto you might want to buy a turret press to speed up production of the .45 Auto ammo.

If you want a really good single stage press kit take a close look at this one. http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000449361 (sale found by RC and posted in another thread) It has everything you need but for a set of calipers, dies and components. That is an amazing price for all that RCBS stuff plus you get a $50 rebate from RCBS. (manual is included in that kit) Those tools will last you more than a lifetime.
 
Do not worry Archangel, and Lost Sheep, I have yet to make my purchase. I'm waiting on hearing some solid info on what people suggest to me before I do actually do that.

To answer your question on how much I will be shooting, The answer is, I will be shooting the .45 a lot more than the .308. Ideally, I'd like to be able to make quality, consistent ammo for the .308. I will be using them out of my scoped m1a, for 100 yard shots, and deer hunting. (unless I just buy federal ammo for that) So to answer about how much I will be shooting the .308, its not going to be a whole lot. The .45 on the other hand will be shot more. As a rough guess, I would say probably out of the .45, a few hundred rounds per month. I'm sure It will go down when school starts, but I don't see myself shooting a bunch, or having to reload in large amounts. Last time I took my xd to the range, I only shot about 70 rounds, so I won't be shooting a whole lot.
I hope that answeres your question.
 
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