Rem 700 magazine issues

[peacemaker45]

Hi, all. I just picked up my new (to me) left handed Rem 700 BDL, in .30-06. The gun shoots fine, but has issues when loading the integral magazine. The first round will make it under the feed lip just fine, but the second, which should slip under the left feed lip, doesn't stay put. It just pops back free.

With an ordinary box mag, I'd think it was time for a little judicious bending of the feed lips, to get it running. With an integral mag though, the "feed lips," are actually the bottom of the receiver. Not something I wanna start bending or banging on.

Thoughts? Find a gunsmith? Back to Remington?

 

[rcmodel]

Mmmm?

If you have a Remington Model 700 with integral feed lips milled in the receiver rails??

You have the only one in the world.

Take the action out of the stock and look see what's going on.

Whatever it is, it ain't that.

Note mag box, #30.
http://www.brownells.com/schematics/Remington-/Model-700-BDL-sid125.aspx

rc

 

[peacemaker45]

Well, that's good to know. That my gun's not as broken as I thought it was, not that I'm dumber than I thought I was, I mean.

Thanks, RC.

 

[witchhunter]

Weak spring, or spring out of the little tab in the floor plate?

 

[jmr40]

Every bolt rifle I've ever owned including my Remington 700 uses the bottom of the action as the feed lip rails. Some with detachable magazines have the feed lips made into the magazine, but I've never seen one with a blind magazine or floorplate that did not. RC, you must have misunderstood the question.

But I don't think this is your problem. I'd look at the follower or mag spring first. It would be rare on a BDL, not so much on an ADL, but it is posssible to get the mag spring in backwards. This will cause feeding issues.

 

[peacemaker45]

OK, I disassembled it, and the problem was sort of immediately apparent. The magazine box, which rcmodel linked me to, was installed cockeyed. The 700 action does seem to use the bottom of the action as feed lips, with the box as a cartridge guide, to keep them in place and off the wood. However, only one side of it was actually seated in the receiver cutout. The other was not, and so the cartridge on that side was guided straight past the lip.

Thanks for everyone's help. For some reason, I always seem to need a confidence boost to take a new gun apart.

 

[rondog]

I can only get 4 rounds in my .30-06 700 BDL - is that normal? It doesn't seem to want anything to do with #5.

 

[Mobuck]

The 700 does, in fact use the bottom of the receiver as the feed lips(as does the Mauser, Springfield, Enfield and dozens of other, older designs). Often, the cause of feed issues is that the follower and spring have been installed backward or the spring is not engaged under the follower correctly. Some(many) current production (especially the cheaper models) rifles use a stamped sheet metal mag box with integral cartridge retention areas formed into the box. This simplifies production and the receivers are not considered cartridge family specific.

 

[Z-Michigan]

Following from what Mobuck said - current production Savage centerfire rifles have a magazine box that includes the feedlips, so nothing on the receiver touches the case before it's halfway into the chamber.

 

[peacemaker45]

I can only get 4 rounds in my .30-06 700 BDL - is that normal? It doesn't seem to want anything to do with #5.

Rondog,
As far as I know, the -06 is only supposed to hold four. The smallbores, .222, .223, etc., hold five, the standard cartridge models hold four, and the magnums three.

 

[zonzin]

Here is the solution to your problem

https://www.hsprecision.com/shop2/detachable-magazines/detachable-magazine-assembly.html

Put one on my 700 and have not looked back.