Remarms BDL and CDL calibers

[Southmountain]

I went to the Remarms website and saw that their Model 700 BDL and CDL only have 4 calibers: 243, 270, 30-06, 7mm Rem Mag.

Any idea where if this is going to change? Have they offered other calibers in recent years under Cerebus?

 

[mshootnit]

I saw that too. but on auction I see 6.5,s and 308 I think sps no cdl. under cerberus they made many calibers

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Im a little surprised .243 made the list. I love the cartridge, but its been unobtainium for years now.

 

[Moparnut]

This makes me wonder about the future of some other calibers. Mainly the 25-06 and the 7mm-08.

 

[jmr40]

As usual Remington is way behind the times. They have had a history of bad choices and this is a sign they haven't gotten any better. 40 years ago virtually every rifle manufacturer would offer 270, 30-06, 243, and 308 as the 1st choices when introducing a new rifle. If they proved successful then 7mm RM and 300 WM were added next.

But today many new rifles are not even available in 243, 270, or 30-06. Those 3 have been out of the top 10 cartridges for several years now.

 

[WisBorn]

After reading this thread I went to Remarms website. It is sad to see that they are not offering any lefthanded 700s or 870s.

The first shotgun I brought was a LH 1100 at 15 years old. The first rifle was a LH 700 BDL 30-06 at 19 years old.

 

[Chuck R.]

I think they're taking it slow and gradual, so you may see some additional calibers.

When the website 1st went up, they also listed Mod 7s, which gave me some hope, now the MOD 7s aren't listed. I'd think they're probably easing back into it. I have seen a a lot of M7s in .300AAC and .308 listed on Gunbroker that have threaded 16" barrels and HS Precision stocks:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927081279

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/927160373

I don't remember these models' being offered before the old Remington collapsed.

 

[3Crows]

I think the best thing RemArms could do is to entirely drop the Remington name so they could move forward as the new company they are without dragging forward the baggage of the past that is attached permanently to that name by so many who do not know that Remington of yore is gone.

I find .243 regularly enough. I like my $89 Walmart closeout 700ADL in .243. Seems like some good, basic calibers to get rolling with. And add on models and calibers as production is established. Maybe they should have led off with the new 6.5 Western, or not.

3C

 

[WVRJ]

They're too far behind to think they can just do the same thing the old Remington was doing because they were too far behind the times.They need fresh,innovative,quality products if they ever hope to make it.

 

[mcb]

RemArms did not retain a single engineer from the Huntsville R&D facility. How many good firearms focused R&D engineers want to move to NY state? They talked about a move to Georgia but they are not moving enough product to support the huge Ilion facility how are they going to have the money to stand up a new R&D facility in Georgia? The CEO or Rem Arms, the same CEO that drove the final nails in the Remnington Outdoor Company's coffin is such an extraordinary fudd I would not hold you breath on anything innovative under his leadership. Hehe is such a fudd, he shut down DPMS and Bushmaster in an election year.

 

[Seedy Character]

What is the big surprise?
Ruger didn't start with EVERY model and caliber of Marlin. Get started and slowly expand.

Would those 4 calibers been MY choice? No, but .45-70 wouldn't have been for Ruglin, either.

There again, they didn't ask.

I HATE to the see good name of Remington ruined. The classic 870 Wingmaster, 1100, Speedmaster, and 700, that so many of us grew up with. Loved, owned and used for generations.

Worry more about QUALITY and SERVICE, than quantity.

 

[3Crows]

They're too far behind to think they can just do the same thing the old Remington was doing because they were too far behind the times.They need fresh,innovative,quality products if they ever hope to make it.

Not arguing but I am curious at to what would be fresh? The 700 platform is the AK of the bolt world and highly loved and respected and most copied action anywhere.

3C

 

[Southmountain]

Just hoping for a BDL in 308 with front ramp and sights.

 

[BobABQ]

I think those are pretty safe calibers to begin with and you would expect that others will follow. I am surprised that 6.5 Creedmore was not on that list with its popularity.

 

[Mullo98]

Just hope the quality is there for yesteryear...

 

[Ks5shooter]

Targeting the hunter crowd/gun buyer newbies it seems.Ammo is available and pretty standard fare. Newcomers dont reload right away. My first rifle was a 30-06.

 

[txcookie]

I mean those are the top cartridges for hunters. 308 should be on there! The 65cm for the small game hunters I guess

 

[bob97]

They definitely had other calibers in their sales literature before the bankruptcy.

 

[Chuck R.]

Targeting the hunter crowd/gun buyer newbies it seems.Ammo is available and pretty standard fare. Newcomers dont reload right away. My first rifle was a 30-06.

+1

I think sometimes we forget that the average deer hunter isn't hanging out on gun forums spending countless hours debating cartridge efficiency, twist rates etc.

 

[mshootnit]

Im a little surprised .243 made the list. I love the cartridge, but its been unobtainium for years now.

Rem 783 243s available used on GB

 

[mshootnit]

I haven't seen any new remarms BDL or CDL for sale. Just SPS.

 

[WVRJ]

Not arguing but I am curious at to what would be fresh? The 700 platform is the AK of the bolt world and highly loved and respected and most copied action anywhere.

3C

They need to follow the market.You're right,the 700 is the best most popular bolt action there is.One innovation they could make would be to lengthen the short action's magazine to handle cartridges that are 2.9 or 3 inches.Quit making barrels that have throats that want 2.925 inch rounds and magazines that are 2.8 inches.And raise the bar on their QC.The 700 should be a sub-MOA rifle out of the box,but they're not.Get rid of junk like the 710 and the 770.I have more 700's than any other rifle and not a one of them are bone stock because they need work to make them shoot.

 

[d2wing]

They need to follow the market.You're right,the 700 is the best most popular bolt action there is.One innovation they could make would be to lengthen the short action's magazine to handle cartridges that are 2.9 or 3 inches.Quit making barrels that have throats that want 2.925 inch rounds and magazines that are 2.8 inches.And raise the bar on their QC.The 700 should be a sub-MOA rifle out of the box,but they're not.Get rid of junk like the 710 and the 770.I have more 700's than any other rifle and not a one of them are bone stock because they need work to make them shoot.

To be fair, every 700 I have bought has been sub-MOA out of the box, and they do make a long action. I think it is reasonable to start with the most common traditional calibers. Of course, that might be debatable. But I think they need cash flow before they invest in bringing a wider selection to market.

 

[mcb]

They need to follow the market.You're right,the 700 is the best most popular bolt action there is.One innovation they could make would be to lengthen the short action's magazine to handle cartridges that are 2.9 or 3 inches.Quit making barrels that have throats that want 2.925 inch rounds and magazines that are 2.8 inches.And raise the bar on their QC.The 700 should be a sub-MOA rifle out of the box,but they're not.Get rid of junk like the 710 and the 770.I have more 700's than any other rifle and not a one of them are bone stock because they need work to make them shoot.

They need to drop the the ADL support completely. Every Rem 700 action coming off the line is an ADL action. Due to this there is a lump at the back of the opening for the magazine well to support the front screw on the trigger guard. If they dropped this feature they would be able to feed rounds at least .1 inches longer on either action (very close to 3.00 OAL in a short action) without creating a medium action.

They need to get rid of the current bolt stop and go to an external Mauser style bolt stop. Reaching into the trigger guard to release the bold is a bad plan all around.

Barrel nut, just like the 783 and Savage. The 700 needs a barrel nut so the user can change barrels. There is no advantage to the 700 barrel mounting system other than requiring special fixtures to replace the barrel.

Machine critical mating surfaces on the receiver, like the barrel threads and locking lug slots, post heat treat.

The problem that Rem Arms is up against is I can get all of the above and more build a Remington 700 exactly the way I want it and never touch a single Rem Arms (or former Remington) manufactured part. This speak to how widely accepted the 700 is but this success is now Rem Arms biggest problem. Why would I buy a questionable Rem Arms product when I can buy a proven 700 clone.

 

[mshootnit]

come out with real 788's.