Remington 1858, Navy, stainless, target, anyone wants it?

Onty

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After seeing Remington 1858, New Army, 44, stainless, target:

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I started thinking about similar, but Navy in 36. That would be a nice shooter!

Anyone else wants it?
 
Yes, I would like a Pietta .36 Remington Target model but it's hard to find any new ones in the USA.
I've seen them for sale in Canada and Europe.
I wonder if EMF is willing to order any?

Onty, where are you located?
Are you in the USA?
 
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My first revolver I got when I was 14 was a 1858 Remington in 36 caliber by Navy Arms and as I remember it never shot very good. But to be fair I'm sure the problem was more the operator than the revolver. Last February I did get this target model in 44 caliber from EMF when they had them on sale but to date I have not used it. When I go to the range I always take one of my Colts.
 
Cabela's used to sell the Pietta .36 Remington Target some years ago.
But I've only seen new base model .36's for sale in the US that don't have an adjustable rear sight.
 
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Was the Remington .36 the same size as a .44,just smaller holes?
 
My first revolver I got when I was 14 was a 1858 Remington in 36 caliber by Navy Arms and as I remember it never shot very good. But to be fair I'm sure the problem was more the operator than the revolver. Last February I did get this target model in 44 caliber from EMF when they had them on sale but to date I have not used it. When I go to the range I always take one of my Colts.

When i first got mine it was a bit of a learning curve. Not like an auto when you can get 200 rounds downrange in an afternoon. Getting a feel for these seems to take some time. Think I'm just getting to the point where I'm pretty confident shooting my .44 1858
 
Was the Remington .36 the same size as a .44,just smaller holes?

Yes, the current Pietta .36 has the same size frame as their .44.
However this Pietta .36 Target model that was made in 1973 had a smaller frame than their .44.
But it still had the same 6.5" barrel length as their current .36.

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Yes, I would like a Pietta .36 Remington Target model but it's hard to find any new ones in the USA.
I've seen them for sale in Canada and Europe.
I wonder if EMF is willing to order any?

Onty, where are you located?
Are you in the USA?
Is top one Pietta? Lower one Uberti? Will try to make few phone calls next days, and let you know the outcome.

I was in Canada 36 years, last 3 years worked as a contractor (design engineer) in USA, upstate NY. Loved driving around Finger Lakes, beautiful scenery. Best hamburger ever in Skaneateles NY. Last year retired, now in Zagreb, Croatia.
 
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Just stumbled upon pictures of original 1858 Army and Navy revolvers, from thread https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...erti-1858-new-model-navy-36-cal.839644/page-2 :

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Please note nicely done trigger on Navy model. Boy, if they make Navy target model in original size, I will grab it in a heartbeat. The only thing I would insist is high quality steel and decent cylinder wall thickness, something like .070 between chambers, and .085 - .090 outside wall. Those thin cylinder walls on 1858 Army make me leery.
 
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Just stumbled upon pictures of original 1858 Army and Navy revolvers, from thread https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...erti-1858-new-model-navy-36-cal.839644/page-2 :

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Please note nicely done trigger on Navy model. Boy, if they make Navy target model in original size, I will grab it in a heartbeat. The only thing I would insist is high quality steel and decent cylinder wall thickness, something like .070 between chambers, and .085 - .090 outside wall. Those thin cylinder walls on 1858 Army make me leery.
if you take a look at the chambers on the Pietta Shooters Model (cylinders bored to .456) you’ll wonder why they don’t blow up regularly...
 
if you take a look at the chambers on the Pietta Shooters Model (cylinders bored to .456) you’ll wonder why they don’t blow up regularly...
That's the reason I will stick to Ruger Old Army for 45 cal.

Talking about 1858 Navy Target, found it in Canada https://marstar.ca/product/pt-rgst36/ . Bit too late for me now, and on top of that, it's blue. Also, it was available in Poland https://translate.google.com/transl...arget-36-i6726123746.html&prev=search&pto=aue . I like on this model 6.5" barrel.
 
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A number of my Colts are reamed to .456. Good shooters all...

Never had a chance to handle Colt revolvers, do they have thicker cylinder walls than Remington 1858?

BTW, here is the picture of 1858 Navy Target model:

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Yes, I wants it. Maybe will find one to purchase next year. Hard to come by right now. I want the sights. I cannot shoot the guns with the little groove in the hammer.
 
Yes, I wants it. Maybe will find one to purchase next year. Hard to come by right now. I want the sights. I cannot shoot the guns with the little groove in the hammer.

Bill, try to contact Pietta USA http://piettausa.com/ , http://piettausa.com/Contact_ep_29.html . If 1858 Navy Target Is available In Canada, there is a very good chance that it might be also available in USA.

I like 6.5" barrel on it. Looks nicely, and proportional. Tried to handle 1858 Army in 44 cal. With 8" barrel, bit too large and muzzle heavy for my taste.
 
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Just stumbled upon pictures of original 1858 Army and Navy revolvers, from thread https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...erti-1858-new-model-navy-36-cal.839644/page-2 :

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Please note nicely done trigger on Navy model. Boy, if they make Navy target model in original size, I will grab it in a heartbeat. The only thing I would insist is high quality steel and decent cylinder wall thickness, something like .070 between chambers, and .085 - .090 outside wall. Those thin cylinder walls on 1858 Army make me leery.
That’s a lovely trigger. Most manufacturers back then paid attention to those details. I do believe that’s a Police Model and not a Navy model though. The frame size and the fact that it’s carrying a five shot cylinder indicate this. I have been told that Remington made both the Navy and Army on the same frame, caliber and barrel lengths being the only difference. I’ve not handled both side by side but that’s the word I have from someone who has.
 
I'm of two minds on the subject. On the one hand, adjustable sights are very useful on a percussion revolver and go a long way toward making them useful tools. On the other hand, none of them really look right, and an Old Army is better in just about every conceivable way, if that's the sort of gun you're looking for.

Overall, I prefer to cut a square notch in the hammer, and dovetail in a good ramp front sight. This preserves most of the looks of a cap gun while still allowing for a good sight picture and a good zero. To each his own, of course...
 
That’s a lovely trigger. Most manufacturers back then paid attention to those details. I do believe that’s a Police Model and not a Navy model though. The frame size and the fact that it’s carrying a five shot cylinder indicate this. I have been told that Remington made both the Navy and Army on the same frame, caliber and barrel lengths being the only difference. I’ve not handled both side by side but that’s the word I have from someone who has.

The original navy is a little smaller than the army.
 
Those modern target sights on the Remington !858 look so anachronistic!

I can see the appeal in places like Europe where cartridge revolvers are so restricted. But in the U.S., we don't have that excuse. If you want to shoot modern targets, get a modern gun.
 
The original navy is a little smaller than the army.
Well, that’s another on the side of “different frames”… not that I don’t trust your assessment Hawg. You generally seem to know your stuff. But I’d say that about the fellow who told me they’re the same. I’ll probably never be able to say it’s settled in my mind. Unless I come across a couple actual originals. So it goes.
 
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