Remington 700 getting factory Timneys

[illinoisburt]

Saw this announcement today. Guess the new owners don't want the future liability of the old trigger designs. Not a terrible thing getting a decent aftermarket trigger from the start. Only quibble is description says non-adjustable.

 

[jmr40]

They moved away from the Walker trigger design that caused the problems in 2007. The new design is solid, but they did have a recall on 2007-2014 guns because adhesive somehow made its way into a handful of triggers from that era. The adhesive in the trigger group caused some problems, but the design is safe.

But shooters have never liked the newer design claiming it wasn't very good. I've had lots of experience with the Walker Trigger and have even seen one fail and discharge without the trigger being pulled. I put a Timney in mine years ago. I have no experience at all with the triggers used since 2007.

At any rate going with a proven design should be good for them.

 

[LoonWulf]

I just saw that and personally i like the idea/marketing etc....but ill still take an adjustable Xmark pro

 

[JDeere]

I have a 60s era 700 and 600 that I adjusted the triggers and they are nice...I always banged the butt on a floor with the safety off to check them. The newer model X Marks I was not happy with so I put Timney's in them. I just could not get the Xmark's adjusted well and did not like those dongles on there.

 

[lightman]

That sounds like a step in the right direction. I put Jewell triggers in mine. When I heard that Jewell was having trouble getting parts and had temporarily quit selling triggers I bought a spare before everyone ran out.

 

[berettaprofessor]

Well, now the new ones will match my modified 700.....

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Not just non-adjustable, but tamper-resistant as well (SEAL'd).

I personally want nothing to do with New Remington, so......meh.

 

[jdsingleshot]

My '66 Model 700 has it's original trigger. Years back I modified it so the safety can remain on when working the bolt. That was before all the flak about their triggers. I just didn't like working the bolt (especially the initial opening) with safety off.

 

[Hugger-4641]

Good to hear. Probably not going to buy a new Rem anytime soon, but having experienced a 700 fire without trigger pull, I'm glad they are using Timney.

 

[P89DCSS]

Smart marketing move by the new owners. I have two 700s and both have aftermarket triggers. Bought both used and got a better price by pointing out the trigger needs to be replaced.

 

[Slamfire]

I have not replaced the factory trigger in my 6.5 Swede Remington M700, but I should have. If I ever take it hunting, then I will, the Mike Walker trigger is prone to failure. There have been lots of outstanding replacement M700 trigger mechanisms if you don't like the free one.

A great resource about this issue:

REMINGTON RIFLE TRIGGER DEFECT DOCUMENTS
http://www.remingtondocuments.com/the-defective-trigger/

Remington rifle trigger defect documents
http://www.remingtondocuments.com/the-defective-trigger/

Remington Testing Failures
http://www.remingtondocuments.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/remingtontestingfailures.pdf

 

[Varminterror]

What’s the surprise here?

They bought a bankrupt company to capitalize on the name, and rather than spending money to engineer their own solution to a nearly 80 year old problem, they found an inexpensive contract solution which was already present in the OEM supplier space.

 

[mcb]

Roll a $100 bill up and put it in a RemArms 700 and I wouldn't give you $80 for it. Until D'arcy is gone I will have nothing to do with the company.

I have witnessed a Timney in a 700 fire without a trigger pull, on bolt manipulation. 95% of any of these issues are "expert" trigger jobs.

The Marines are still running a version of the Walker in their M40s.

 

[Litetrigger]

I have yet to own or test a Timney trigger I would rather have, or trust more, than a basic well ajusted Walker trigger. And I've owned and tested a bunch of both.

 

[joed]

I had one of the rifles that was recalled for the epoxy problem. It was a very crisp trigger and had it been adjustable I could have liked it. Literature said it was adjustable but nothing I did lightened the pull. Rather then fool with it I added a Timney and still have the original in the safe. There was so much epoxy on that trigger that the smith that replaced it told me it wasn't worth the work of removing all the epoxy. Just after changing to a Timney trigger I received a notice to ship the gun back to Remington. I just laughed.

 

[Sniper66]

Well, now the new ones will match my modified 700.....

Mine too. I put Timney in two of my 700s after an AD in one of my .243s. I have a Shilen in my other 700, a heavy .223 that is a terrific p-dog gun. My accuracy % went up when I changed the trigger.

 

[joed]

There is only one thing that bothers me about the announcement. It says the trigger is not adjustable, that would bother me.

 

[JDeere]

There is only one thing that bothers me about the announcement. It says the trigger is not adjustable, that would bother me.

And just like that it became a useless tool. I see now that new Timney does not have the 2 adjustment features as the regular Timney's. Maybe saving some souls that know nothing about trigger adjustments? Glad I'm not interested in any Remington's although I have a few that I am very happy with and taken many a game animal...

 

[Varminterror]

I have yet to own or test a Timney trigger I would rather have, or trust more, than a basic well ajusted Walker trigger. And I've owned and tested a bunch of both.

The bigger issue is that there are around 10,000:1 Walker triggers which aren’t “well adjusted,” and some of those which aren’t, are prone to significant safety issues.