Remington model 11 project

[RustHunter87]

I picked up a old rem 11 on the cheap yesterday, its from 1923 according to this site http://www.remingtonsociety.com/rsa/questions/FR09.
The wood is in real rough shape the fiber buffer is gone, and the rivet that used to hold it is awful smashed, otherwise it seems solid.
I hope to make this a project gun and need some ideas on how i could fix a new buffer in there without that rivet?
its all in bits at the moment but i can provide pics of them if it would help

 

[Chawbaccer]

Get a new buffer and rivet from Numrich. Don't shoot it without the buffer. Also replace your friction rings while at it.

 

[35Rem]

The rivet needs to come out. I have heard of new buffers being glued/epoxied in.

 

[mnrivrat]

The hole that holds the rivot is flared. You need a long drill bit just large enough to drill out the rivot, (size of the hole opening at the front) . After drilling what you can out , you have to pick the flared part of the rivot out of the hole. Don't drill thru the back of the receiver - the rivot is soft brass.

New ones will flare into the rear larger part of the hole when installing the new buffer. Just drive the rivot rearward.

If that is two hard, I have also heard of buffers being epoxied in. Iam uncertain as to what epoxy to use for this so perhaps a call or e-mail to Brownells tech team .

 

[RustHunter87]

Alright I'm resurrecting this thread in hopes of solving some new issues with this Model 11.
After much head scratchin i finally managed to drill the center out of the blind rivet and pop that out of there.
Ordered and installed a new rivet, cushion, action spring and friction spring, than put it all back together, But now it wont cycle!
The action seem to be getting fetched up at about the end of its travel, it just takes a small nudge (one finger) to the operating handle to get it to close.
It seems to me that the carrier is getting in the way? any one have any ideas on what might be happening?

 

[35Rem]

Weak action spring, or maybe gummed up? Have you taken the stock off and removed the plug and spring that pushes the bolt forward?

Great video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAPY84sR1wY

 

[Hoxviii]

Can't help on specifics, but really check for cracks around the frontmost pin in the receiver. I've seen several cracking there and migrating around the receiver.

Justin

 

[RustHunter87]

After some careful inspection this morning I noticed its not the carrier, the bolt seems to be hitting the edge of the barrel just below the extractor, will try and get some pics up latter cant find the camera

The insides are pretty clean I had/have the thing broken down completely except the trigger group and i did have to do some work to the action spring tube cus the plunger was getting hung up where the tube meets the receiver, but i got that smoothed out.

35rem: thats a good video for learning the breakdown i found and used it the first time i took this old girl apart

thanks for the tips

 

[loose noose]

Rusthunter, you said the stock was in really rough condition, I believe you can get a new stock thru Cabellas, or Numerich Gun Parts. A few years ago I completely reconditioned my Dad's old model 11. Allthough I didn't need a stock but I did have to have the checkering re-done. That is a really neat shotgun. Sure does bring back fond memories of my Dad and I during our many hunting expeditions.

 

[RustHunter87]

yah the thing with the new stock sets is they cost more than i paid for the gun but ill bite the bullet and get it if i can get it runnin right

but I have a new Development, after stonen' some of the mating parts and covering them in oil i found the bolt will close on its own if the gun is upside down

 

[L-]

Did you take the bolt apart? If not then do so and check for a cracked bolt. There is also a raised portion (?) that also fits in a track, semi circle kind of thing. This is the block that fits into the back of the barrel. See if a piece of the ridge is broken off. There should never be anything that needs stoning on these actions. I had one that the barrel was not screwed into the barrel extension enough and the extractor did not line up.

YOU CAN tap that rivet hole and use a small screw but do not drill out the back of the receiver. You can fashion some kind of 10" or longer extension to the right drill size and drill it out and put a rivet in there. ALSO, you can, if you just want to, or need to or cannot drill and spread the new rivet just use Brownell's Acra Glass Gel to expoxy the new rivet is place. You can install it into the fiber first and then epoxy everything together. I like this video as it is more precise on the friction pieces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkiGWd6ot84

L-

 

[rodinal220]

Just make a new buffer out of a modern synthetic material.The first ones I made I used a .50 cent piece as a template on some .250" thick rubber material.Punch a hole for the rivet,notch buffer for bolt action spring plunger/guide,and RTV sealant to hold in place.The old style fiber buffers are pretty archaic and fall apart after being soaked in oil/lube.
My new style ones are machined out of urethane 1.20" diameter. Remington 11s are great guns and can be had for a fraction of the price of a Browning.

 

[RustHunter87]

guys i installed the buffer months ago... post 5