Remington Model M11 Question

[sojonojo]

I have a Remington 511 Scoremaster that I am not sure works. The gun itself looks like its in decent condition (dated back to July 1945 ~ OPP). Anyway, the safety and trigger seem solid. The bolt is a little loose (my understanding was that is a common problem). The cartridge stays on solid and lines up with the barrel. The barrel and internals look a little dusty...

The firing pin is where my concern lays. It does kick out in the back when i cock the bolt back and the firing pin does go off when I squeeze the trigger. I just am not sure if the pin is long enough to hit the bullet.

I have included pictures

If all is well i planned on throwing some 22lr ammo in it and tying it to a tree and pulling the trigger with some fishing string at a safe distance just in case it blows up. sound good?


http://tinypic.com/r/npmnna/5


http://tinypic.com/r/4gos9s/5


http://tinypic.com/r/27y6dcx/5


http://tinypic.com/r/funof7/5

 

[rcmodel]

Looks fine to me.
Only way to find out is to shoot it though.

I would not go to the trouble of tyeing it to a tree.
At worst, it won't fire, and at best it will.

A .22 doesn't have enough stuff in it to blow up and hurt you.

Just stick it out in front of you and pull the trigger on a few rounds.

If no smoke comes out of the bolt / receiver joint it is perfectly safe.

BTW: I would not recommend dry-firing it any more.
It's hard on the firing pin to snap on nothing, and it can be harder on the empty chamber if the firing pin is long enough to hit it and ding the edge of the chamber.

rc

 

[sojonojo]

wow fast reply. thank you. whoops, im a new gun owner thank you for telling me. if it does not fire would that mean the firing pin is not hitting? any recommended ammo? i was just going to go down to walmart or big 5 and get the cheapest box of 22lr.

 

[Deltaboy1984]

They are built like Tanks!

 

[ants]

Where do you live? If you're close, you can drop by and we'll grab a handful of 22 long rifle, go out back together and shoot a can.

If it doesn't go Bang, look at the indent on the rimfire shell. No indent, or weak indent, would indicate a poor strike. That doesn't mean the firing pin is broken, it may be gummed up with krap inside.

Of course, best to lubricate before you shoot. But even better to run a cleaning rod down the bore and make sure it's clear.




By the way, you really grabbed my attention with Remington Model M11. That's an old Remington shotgun, I've got 4 of them. One was inherited through the family. The other three have been assembled from loose parts gathered over the years.

 

[Blackwolf]

You can get a box of 550 Federal .22LR rounds for $20 at the ol' Walmart. Good plinking ammo, as long as you're not shooting a semi-automatic.

If the gun doesn't fire, then the firing pin probably is too short. Dry firing a rim fire firearm can wear down the firing pin, making it *just* too short to hit the primer. It may also just barely ding the primer. The pin hits the primer, but not hard enough to ignite it. I have a .22 semi-auto rifle that does that... I need to fix it.

Nice gun you got there, Sojo. Hope it works!

 

[sojonojo]

@ants
New Mexico. Yeah I figured I should have it cleaned first. I have no idea how to go about doing that and I know if I take it apart, it won't get put back together. I do have this pretty cool teardown mapping http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f70/loner5667/Remington 511/510exploded.jpg

Haha my bad. I was doing simultaneous research and must of got mixed up when i posted. Only shotgun i have is a j stevens arm company single berrel 12-guage that i am pretty sure doesn't work. The stock is also very loose on the shotgun. great sentimental peace but i don't think i will be firing it.




@blackwolf

thank you. well i guess the only way to know if it works is to fire it. that pin looked really short to me but i think it may hit it.

i will probably end up firing it tonight or sometime tomorrow, wish me luck

 

[rcmodel]

No need to take it apart.
You can clean the bolt with a can of WD-40 and an old toothbrush.
Blow it out with an air hose afterward, or let it drip-dry.

rc

 

[LoonWulf]

if you feel like spending a bit more you can get a can of powderblast or something similar. Ive used WD40 as well as the other spray cleaners....anybody ever try taking apart a buckmark? if not dont...and while the WD40 works about as well it makes a bit more of a mess.

 

[rcmodel]

Depends on your definition of a mess I guess.

I use a lot of WD-40 in the basement shop cleaning old gummed up guns.
The smell is not objectionable, and the fumes won't give you liver cancer quite as fast as a lot of other spray solvents.

I just hold the part over the plastic bag in the garbage can by the bench and hose away.

rc

 

[sojonojo]

Hello everyone. Long time no see huh. Just thought I would give yall an update. Looking back at my old post I seem so "young" haha.

This firearm (Remington 511) originally did not work. It was very sad. So I put it away and started learning more about firearms. I've gone out and associated myself with firearm enthusiasts and hunters and shooters alike and I have equipped myself with a good general knowledge about firearms and most importantly, firearm safety.


Anyway, I decided to revisit this firearm (Remington 511) seeking a firearm with cheap ammunition cost and it seems in some cases it is cheaper to rebuild than buy new. I have shot some pretty crazy .22's that were beyond inaccurate. These older guns are indeed build like tanks and I love the accuracy of the iron sights.


I was brave enough one day to take the firearm apart to see my problems. Lucky for me it lied in the bolt. Most of the pins were falling out and the pin holding the mainspring was pretty much halfway out. I took the bolt apart, cleaned, and reassembled. Haha it was my first time doing so so I actually ended up butting the bolt handle on backwards which resulted in the bolt wanting to slide in incorrectly and when I first took it apart the mainspring and other prices went flying off. Live and learn haha, So after re-reassembling it I took it out to the field to test fire and it worked like a champ.

Easy fix and I am glad I didn't pay for any gunsmith help. One of my new favorite firearms now. And I think I can live with the $8-$12/100 cartridges price tag on ammo. I have other, bigger firearms but I think I get the most fun out of this .22.


Here is some pictures of the carnage. From yesterday. My only regret is that I only brought 4 bullets with me and left the rest at home. I figured 1 to test fire, and 3 to shoot and test cycling (also didn't want to shoot just 3, no distress here)



http://tinypic.com/r/xd607m/6



http://tinypic.com/r/w7h3wx/6



http://tinypic.com/r/nlo4zq/6


kinda funny that even though I hit it, the water wasn't pouring out. My other firearms tear the jug up. I could actually keep re-shooting at this. The water didn't even come out until I went over there and pressed down on the top. And 1/3, I am no sharp shooter obviously but it was my first time shooting this gun and I had fun.

 

[Reloadron]

Just saw this thread. Unfortunately here at work the net nanny blocks the images you have posted. My first rifle was a Remington Model 510 P but I also have a Model 511 Scoremaster. They are absolutely great little .22 rifles and if I see them for sale at a show I generally will look to buy them. The 511 has a 5 shot little magazine if I am not mistaken. Most of today's .22 rifles can't touch those old rifles right out of the box.

Glad you got it shooting and are enjoying it. Heed the warnings about dry firing that rifle. Sans a cartridge the firing pin will be striking the breech face. While dry firing will not hurt some .22 rifles it is unwise to do it with others and the 510 and 511 are in the others group.

Ron

Ron

 

[sojonojo]

@Reloadron:

my 511 has a 10 shot mag. Guess my father or my fathers father added it years ago. I see 6,10, and 15 round mags available for this firearm. a couple 15 round mags and its on haha. yeah thats what I said, all the other .22's I have shot are horribly inaccurate compared to this rifle.

yes I have been advised against dry firing. I use a shell now. Only time I dry fire is when I have shot my last shot and only because I need to eject the spent shell and re-clean the gun before putting it up.


I ended up shooting it again this morning (after posting my first message haha) and I shot 20 rounds (2 clips) at 2 milk jugs and 3 clays. I hit 13/20 or 14/20. Not to bad.

I was taking out the clays with 1 shot in the end but it seems like just when I start getting the hang of it, things come up. In this case the cops had shown up down the road so I counted my blessing that they were on the wrong side of me (no direct path to me) and decided to leave before anything happened. So unfortunately I didnt get any pics. Still had a blast though.

 

[Reloadron]

I finally got to see your pictures. Nice!

The one I have was actually originally a 511P model with a peep sight but someone removed it and put a scope on it. The magazines are 5 round and labeled Remington? Beats me.

I saw one at a show a few weeks ago but someone had hacked the stock cutting off the forearm. No clue why but I passed on it. Good metal but I would play hell finding another nice stock.

I have several new .22 rifles but have yet to fine a new .22 that shoots as well as those old 510 and 511 rifles.

Ron