Replacement .30 Carbine Blackhawk directly from Ruger

[jski]

By request of some readers, here is my replacement .30 Carbine Blackhawk.

One thing that seems different is the the small groove cut into the cylinder pin is gone. That groove allowed the pin to move along the outer covering for the ejector rod. With my new Blackhawk, the cylinder pin doesn't ride along this outer covering and hence, has no need for a groove.

Also, I must say this puppy seems more polished. The gap between cylinder and breach is smaller and the bluing is deeper. The one that was replaced dates back to circa 2003.

 

[jski]

BTW, the groove/notch was in the cylinder pin "collar" and not along the cylinder pin itself.

 

[1KPerDay]

Why replaced?

 

[bannockburn]

1KPerDay

In an earlier thread jski asked about custom work that could be done on the Blackhawk. He mentioned that he had sent his .30 Carbine Blackhawk in to Ruger.

I sent the .30 Carbine Blackhawk back to Ruger simply because on 1 chamber the cylinder failed to completely lock when the hammer was pulled back. There's was movement / play in the cylinder on that chamber.

Ruger had contacted him and said that the old gun was not repairable and was sending him a new Blackhawk as a replacement.

A few years back a friend of mine bought a used stainless Ruger Vaquero in .44 Magnum. He got it home and noticed that the front sight was canted over a bit to the right side. Took it back to the gun store he bought it from and they sent it back to Ruger. Ruger concluded that the barrel had not been installed properly and would have to be replaced. Only problem was they no longer had that barrel in stock. So they made up a new barrel from bar stock and fitted it to the gun. Then they polished the whole gun so the finish of the barrel matched the rest of the gun. It took about 3 months but it was worth it and it was all done on Ruger's time.

Now how's that for customer service?

 

[Jim Watson]

Now how's that for customer service?

Well, not as good service as selling a gun with the barrel on straight to start with.

 

[robhof]

robhof

A friend if my son bought a beat up P85 Ruger that had problems, sent it to Ruger, seems the gun had been recalled for safety issues, he ended up with a brand new P85 for a total of $50 for the original, they paid postage both ways since it was a recalled gun. I've had good dealings with Ruger also. Great customer support.

 

[bannockburn]

Jim Watson

True but at least they made good on it.

 

[Jim Watson]

Most reputable gun companies will make good on their faulty products.

I conclude they are going by statistical process control and have arrived at a level of QA/QC where fixing the duds is cheaper than fixing the process.

 

[bannockburn]

Jim Watson

Possibily but some companies might also say that since it was a used gun they weren't responsible for any problems with it since it left the factory. For Ruger to make a whole new barrel (they even put the Warning disclaimer on the underside of the barrel-another nice touch), just seemed to be over and above your average customer service effort.

 

[Jim Watson]

Agree, that was very nice of them. Most companies discontinue a gun and when they run out of spare parts, that is that. Like S&W.

Wonder what the buyer would have done if he had noticed the crooked sight in the store before he laid his money down?

 

[RX-79G]

30+ years ago my uncle sent a matched, sequential set of collectible 1960s Blackhawks to Ruger for the free transfer bar upgrade. They were in perfect condition.

A month later, Ruger contacted him to say that they had lost his revolvers, but they would be happy to replace them with two brand new revolvers.


He told them what he thought of them "losing" collectible revolvers, and low and behold, they "found" them a week later.


How old was the OP's original .30 carbine Blackhawk?

 

[1KPerDay]

I'd like to know that also... if it was a 3-screw and they're sending him a new model, I call that no good deal personally. I've personally had good experiences with Ruger and expect to do so in the future.

 

[Jim Watson]

If you ever have a Ruger customized, stay in contact with the gunsmith.
Because if you send it in for work, Ruger will return it to stock at your expense.

 

[RX-79G]

Well, Unk's FIRST mistake was getting into the transfer bar scam.

If you ever have a Ruger customized, stay in contact with the gunsmith.
Because if you send it in for work, Ruger will return it to stock at your expense.

I don't know what "scam" you're talking about. The transfer bar parts are all drop in and Ruger will return the original parts with the firearm without even asking, so the firearm could be restored to original specification at any time. Which is exactly what happened in this case. And I've read other people just recently getting the same deal.


So what is the scam?

 

[Jim Watson]

I have READ that they have quit returning the standard parts but cannot today find anybody who did not get the baggie.
Fixed it.

 

[RX-79G]

No idea, but here's someone that got their parts in 2013:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/sho...ckhawk-transfer-bar-UN-conversion-help-needed

But I doubt Ruger would still be advertising returning the parts on Ruger.com if they weren't doing it:
http://www.ruger.com/pdf/safetyOfferAd.pdf

The whole point of the recall is to get people to do it, and Ruger knows they won't if it damages the value of the firearm. So I really don't understand the origin of your "scam" comment, Jim. Someone might take you seriously, and that would be a disservice to Ruger owners who would benefit from the free service.

 

[Jim Watson]

I will let you reassure the Sixshooter Conversion prospects, then. I only have one Ruger Old Model SA and they are not getting their hands on it.

 

[RX-79G]

You do whatever you want with your gun.

You might consider not spreading hokum that dissuades people from getting a safety upgrade if it isn't true.

 

[Jim Watson]

Hokum retracted.
I could not find anybody who did not get his original bits back.

But I found numerous mentions that the conversion did not give as good trigger pull as either the starting Old Model or even a well set up New Model. I'd rather have five crisp than six creepy. But then I trained up in CAS and only get five shots in either action.

 

[RX-79G]

Yup, things like firing pin blocks or hammer intercepts negatively affect trigger pull on all guns. But I had a modern Blackhawk with a trigger job that had a fantastic trigger, so it isn't a show stopper - it just means that Ruger's stock sear engagement isn't for bullseye shooting.

Anyone who gets the conversion can put their original parts back in at any time for free, or they can get a trigger job.