Republicans, RINOS, Libertarians, and Constitution Party

[priv8ter]

Hmm...

Excuse me if I get a little bristly here. We just picked candidates in our Virginia primary. Despite the fact that there were two republicans on the ticket, the party treated the whole thing as a formality. Kilgore, who did win, would not debate the other R candidate, saying the party was behind him and he was saving the debate for the main election

This has been happening here in Washington for the last few years. Instead of the public truely being given an opportunity to vote for folks in the Primary, that State Republican Party Chairman has been deciding who the State Republican party wants to endorse, and then not been giving any financial love to anyone with the gaul to run against 'The Chosen One'.

I have always thought what the Libertarian Party has to do was pick a big name...someone like Kurt Russel who is fairly well known, and run them for an office they have a legitimat shot at winning, Like a U.S. Rep, or the Senate...I mean, don't waste running him for President...get him and his Name in office to get some attention drawn to the Party.

But, what do I know...

greg

 

[Barbara]

Boy, we don't want to get me started again, eh, Dan?

 

[Dan from MI]

Boy, we don't want to get me started again, eh, Dan?

Now now, just because your congresscritter (Joe Schwarz) is a RINO who say that 2a supporters are "bubbas who like to strap on a 9mm" doesn't mean we all are like that.

 

[Barbara]

Well, RINO is a lot nicer word than I'd ever called him.

I remember once leaving a meeting he was at where he told a group of gun owners they didn't need ccw and he supported the AWB and calling someone to rant about what a big fat pompous pile of poo he was. Since that day, I avoid being in the same room with him if at all possible.

 

[JohnBT]

"this isn't just about an old geezers recollections from the 60's-80's,"

Old geezer? You? I'm older than you and my father is 28 years older than me. Heck, they even had color tv's in the '60s to watch the conventions on and you're making it sound like ancient history. The old guy next door to me is a geezer - he's 88. Speaking of history, I learned a lot about it from my grandfathers - one was born in 1890 and the other in 1891.

Actually, things are running pretty smoothly if you compare today to some of the rougher spots in U.S. history.

John

P.S. - re: "Excuse me if I get a little bristly here. We just picked candidates in our Virginia primary. Despite the fact that there were two republicans on the ticket, the party treated the whole thing as a formality."

Cause it is. Always was. Why are you surprised? Same with the Dems. Ever go to the old Shad Planking when it was run by the Byrd Machine?

 

[Gordon Fink]

Most people prefer authoritarian rule. It’s just that simple.

In the 21st century A.D., that leaves us with fascism or socialism, and since we fought that big war against the fascists …

~G. Fink

 

[Barbara]

Yup.

Or worse yet, they expect freedom for themselves, but aren't willing to extend it to others.

I find most people have no concept of what liberty even is or what it means, or why some people are willing to die to keep it.

 

[Byron Quick]

I don't know the ins and outs of all the state election laws. Here in Georgia, the LP has made a significant difference on both a state and national level. The LP prevented the re-election of Wyche Fowler to the Senate. In Georgia, you must have a majority of the vote to win. In a three way race, a plurality of the vote puts you into a run-off with number two. Wyche Fowler won a plurality in the general election. He lost to Paul Coverdell, who had gotten the LP candidate's endorsement, in the run-off. Senator Coverdell's death led to the appointment of Zell Miller to the Senate. The Democratic Party is still having nightmares about that.

 

[Sistema1927]

Stay in the GOP, but influence the party via the Republican Liberty Caucus.

Makes more sense than putting all your effort into fringe groups and third parties that don't stand a chance of winning an election.

 

[beerslurpy]

The RLC is a joke. It just lists republicans as being "libertarian" and Democrats as being "statist" or "authoritarian." It has little basis in fact. Ron Paul is about 30 standard deviations ahead of the rest of them, but you wouldnt know that from the ratings.

 

[hifi]

The bolded statment no longer applies after Ashcroft left.

Exactly. Bush appointed the grabber Gonzalez who "has gun control in his heart" and already we've seen a parts kit ban and several loopholes put into the lawsuit exemption bill, notably that the AG is exempt.

So the Ashcroft thing is another strike on the old "Bush is our happygunfriend" list of "accomplishments".

 

[hifi]

Most people prefer authoritarian rule. It’s just that simple.

In the 21st century A.D., that leaves us with fascism or socialism, and since we fought that big war against the fascists …

~G. Fink

Exactly. When given the choice, most people will argue for their own enslavement. The whole political spectrum is a fraud. There is no left and right. There's either more government or less. Authoritarianism or Anarchy. Where you lie on that spectrum is where you are politically. Most people will say they are for less government involvement in their lives, but when we're talking about somebody else, then they're all for it.

The political spectrum has been set up so that it appears no matter which way you go, you ask for more government. Sometimes one side is for a little less extra government than the other. That's typical Washington logic though. Like is said about the deficit, "only in D.C. is a cut of an increase a cut." And the other scary thing about that is, we're no longer discussing the national debt every year, but the deficit. Is the media really that controlled? Would you like the dummocrat's big government solution or the republicrats big government solution?