Xelera
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I have this issue running on a different forum I visit and am getting some mixed responses. Figured I'd run it by you guys here as well.
When I am resizing my 223 brass (Redding dies, RCBS Rockchucker Press) I am getting some rub marks, which I am told by correspondence with Redding, is normal. I explained to them that I am also getting brass shavings sometimes, in the form of half-moon or full rings, coming off the brass near the webbing at the base.
Here is an image showing what I am talking about.
They do not all do this. I have had issues in the past where Federal brass was really soft and gave slivers, but almost all brass leaves slight rub marks at the base. This last batch, and the brand shown in the picture, is Winchester, which usually is pretty solid stuff.
The next picture shows how slivered brass vs non-slivered brass compares side-by-side when the one on the left shows long rub marks off brass that left slivers when resized, compared to the one on the right with no sliver and a more typical/acceptable resizing mark, out of the same die/press/brass lot.
Redding had me send the die, and 5 rounds fired through my AR. Die was returned with the brass resized through my rifle. All 5 looked like the brass on the right, in the picture above. Redding says die measured in spec as did resized brass fired out of my rifle.
So the question is, the brass I have been resizing where about 4/5 leave rub marks and slivers... is it safe to shoot with marks and more importantly, brass slivers removed like that? It's a mix of once-fired range brass bought at Graf and Sons, and some once fired brass from a friends rifle.
I've had some people say rub marks are normal, and even slivers are, and others say not a chance, don't shoot it if slivers come off. Any experience here which can validate either of those positions?
My goal is not to have to fire factory ammo first in my rifle, to get acceptable brass, nor to spend the money on never fired new brass for reloading. Range brass is cheapest, and is sort of the reason I got into reloading, for cost savings in the long run. May have to adjust my plans/goals in regard to reloading if I cannot safely/confidently reload brass that looks like the slivered/rubbed brass above.
Thanks in advance.
When I am resizing my 223 brass (Redding dies, RCBS Rockchucker Press) I am getting some rub marks, which I am told by correspondence with Redding, is normal. I explained to them that I am also getting brass shavings sometimes, in the form of half-moon or full rings, coming off the brass near the webbing at the base.
Here is an image showing what I am talking about.
They do not all do this. I have had issues in the past where Federal brass was really soft and gave slivers, but almost all brass leaves slight rub marks at the base. This last batch, and the brand shown in the picture, is Winchester, which usually is pretty solid stuff.
The next picture shows how slivered brass vs non-slivered brass compares side-by-side when the one on the left shows long rub marks off brass that left slivers when resized, compared to the one on the right with no sliver and a more typical/acceptable resizing mark, out of the same die/press/brass lot.
Redding had me send the die, and 5 rounds fired through my AR. Die was returned with the brass resized through my rifle. All 5 looked like the brass on the right, in the picture above. Redding says die measured in spec as did resized brass fired out of my rifle.
So the question is, the brass I have been resizing where about 4/5 leave rub marks and slivers... is it safe to shoot with marks and more importantly, brass slivers removed like that? It's a mix of once-fired range brass bought at Graf and Sons, and some once fired brass from a friends rifle.
I've had some people say rub marks are normal, and even slivers are, and others say not a chance, don't shoot it if slivers come off. Any experience here which can validate either of those positions?
My goal is not to have to fire factory ammo first in my rifle, to get acceptable brass, nor to spend the money on never fired new brass for reloading. Range brass is cheapest, and is sort of the reason I got into reloading, for cost savings in the long run. May have to adjust my plans/goals in regard to reloading if I cannot safely/confidently reload brass that looks like the slivered/rubbed brass above.
Thanks in advance.
I would get a new die and try that. I have never shaved anything from a case in the 23 years I have been reloading.
